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Old 11-29-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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Of those who object to the existence of the registry, how many are in the real estate business? Raise your hands?

I will not ask another question that is far more self-incriminating.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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I actually don't object to the registry and think the idea is good. But I think it is becoming used for cases that should probably not be on there - for teens and young adults involved with a girlfriend for example. I think it diminishes the effectiveness of the registry. And perhaps others who also are a danger to children - drug dealers, etc should be added if the purpose of the registry is to alert parents to a possible danger.

(And not a real estate agent or anything else - though as mentioned before I have a young adult family member who ended up on the registry due to a girlfriend who lied about her age)
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:23 PM
 
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Some states have a Romeo/Juiliet rule where guy wouldn't go on the registry (or would be on it for a shorter time) if the girlfriend is at least 14 and is within 3 or 4 years of his age (e.g. guy is 18 and girl is 16).
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:25 PM
 
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I thought that was the case here though it appears the legislation is unclear: Ages of consent in North America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In any case, when I checked the registry in my last two home purchase processes, none of the offenders I saw on the list were of the "Romeo" variety. The vast majority was of the kiddie porn type with a smattering of those who went after very young ones and those who used force.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:46 PM
 
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Why is this all starting to sound like the razor blades in the Halloween candy? Anyone remember this?

Wenatchee child abuse prosecutions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hadn't thought about this in awhile. Sad to see things didn't change that much in 303 years. (Salem Witch Trials)





In terms of some of the cases mentioned on here, I agree that if they actually are on the registry (and I can't distinguish hype from reality for all the claims), it's probably a bit counter-productive. Not all crimes show up on registries, and not all "sex" crimes should either - the situations we're truly concerned about are the ones involving high recidivism rates and/or violent or unnatural crimes. Someone having sex with a 16 year old isn't exactly in the same category as someone molesting a 6 year old, because there is a huge difference. Having sexual inclinations towards pre-pubescent children is completely unnatural and giant red flags should be going up.

The former case is tougher because not too long ago people were regularly married around those ages, but obviously in this day and age our culture has not raised children with that expectation and it's almost always an adult taking advantage of either the situation and/or the naivete of the victim to the benefit of one party and the harm (emotional/mental/psychological) of the other. So while it's reasonable for society to hold them accountable for their actions given our cultural expectation, I put that in a different category than the inherent depravity involved with younger children, since you can't even attempt a biological justification.

So I guess my summary is: actual child molestation and violent rape - absolutely; statutory issues and certain public exposure type cases - maybe not.

Possession of true child pornography (pre-pubescent) obviously fits in with my comments above: absolutely no excuse and even if they haven't taken any actions yet it is still a huge red flag and worthy of registry status and having parents be extremely wary. Cases where it's 16 year olds pretending to be 19 year olds make it much more difficult from a legal perspective, because even though the law doesn't discriminate with any material for minors, I think there is a difference betwen pre and post pubescent minors. (though in case it sounds like I may be condoning the latter, see my above comments. I'm distinguishing between a reasonable conviction for certain crimes and subsequent placement on registries)
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:24 AM
 
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The former case is tougher because not too long ago people were regularly married around those ages, but obviously in this day and age our culture has not raised children with that expectation....
That's definitely changed over time. Nowadays in places like NoVA, getting married at 21 as I did is probably considered an "unnatural act".
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:55 PM
 
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I would point out that sex offenders (and other criminals) do not necessarily target children, so any buyer should do the research.

TO verify if an actual sex offender is a CHILD molester or otherwise, you just have to read through his list of offenses. On top of using VA's sex offender registry, I would recommend using the website Homefacts.com to get detailed information on where the sex offenders are and that website actually listed other interesting home buying facts that are useful like the level of radon etc. I found that website as I was searching for a potential home address and it popped up with some red flag stating that there are sex offenders within close proximity.

What I do not understand is VA law on living proximity of sex offenders to a school - maybe someone can enlighten me? I looked up one offender and he happens to live in the neighborhood of homes I was considering and his address was just 0.3 miles from a middle school ! Hmm....is that crazy or legally allowed or BOTH? Definitely not safe for children playing out on their own..........

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Old 12-01-2012, 05:09 PM
 
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What I do not understand is VA laws on sex offenders, maybe someone can enlighten me?
Technically under VA law someone having gay sex in private would qualify. However, a married couple having sex in public (as long as they don't scare the horses) would not. Don't ya love it?
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:50 PM
 
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So because there is a flaw in the system, parents should just completely disregard it? Hey more power to parents who want to do that because they don't think it's completely "fair". My kids life is more important to me than fairness to society. I certainly will continue to use it to try to keep my kids are safe as possible. I don't know what % of the people on the registry harmed children, but they certainly are there and it only takes one.
Everyone has different opinions about the registry so it is up to the individual parent to do their own diligence. The information is on public domain and it is there if you want to look for it. And if it doesn't bother you living next door to a sex offender, then it is your prerogative.

It is hard not to judge someone who has already paid the time for his offenses but it is only human we do, especially towards sex offenders who commit heinous crimes against children. Sometimes you get just one shot in life and if you mess up, then it will stay with you for the rest of your life. So think twice before you do anything.

I definitely agree with the statement from FCNOVA - you can never be too careful when it comes to your own kids. Better to be safe than sorry.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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Everyone has different opinions about the registry so it is up to the individual parent to do their own diligence. The information is on public domain and it is there if you want to look for it. And if it doesn't bother you living next door to a sex offender, then it is your prerogative..
Seems like a good investment strategy would be to buy a place in close proximity to one of theee guys and then hold it until he goes off the registry. Actually if registrants were smart they'd work a deal with some savvy real estate investors to selectively locate. It could be a new legal form of blockbusting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockbusting

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