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Old 11-07-2012, 05:52 AM
 
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What's wrong with this picture?

Kaine - 53%
Obama - 50%
VA Democratic House seats - 27% (3 out of 11)
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:37 AM
 
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The house has been carved up pretty nicely to ensure the whackos get their fair say. The house truly is a reflection of republican ideals throughout the country.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:09 AM
 
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The house has been carved up pretty nicely to ensure the whackos get their fair say. The house truly is a reflection of republican ideals throughout the country.
I assume you meant Republican with a big R, as in GOP. A republic where 50% of the voters have 27% representation doesn't seem to be a very good one.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:49 AM
 
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What's wrong with this picture?

Kaine - 53%
Obama - 50%
VA Democratic House seats - 27% (3 out of 11)
Nothing more than people approve of the various candidates.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:56 AM
 
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What's wrong with this picture?

Kaine - 53%
Obama - 50%
VA Democratic House seats - 27% (3 out of 11)
No one party should have all the power.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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I assume you meant Republican with a big R, as in GOP. A republic where 50% of the voters have 27% representation doesn't seem to be a very good one.
You're assuming that everyone is a partisan and votes the party ticket right down the line.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:08 AM
 
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Nothing more than people approve of the various candidates.
Yes, and the benefits of incumbency are also particularly great with House members, where people often associate their representatives with local constituent services rather than national politics. I looked at a sample of the precincts in Fairfax that are part of Rep. Wolf's (R) congressional district. He won every single one of them, while these precincts split about 50-50 in the senate and presidential contests.

Certainly there is also gerry-mandering but, again, at least locally the districts as drawn seem to work in favor of keeping Connelly's and Moran's districts predictably Democratic, as much as they work in favor of a Republican incumbent like Wolf. If more of the state's population is gravitating towards areas that favor Democrats, that should eventually change the R/D mix of House representatives, but a bunch of incumbents will probably need to retire first.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:29 AM
 
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Yes, and the benefits of incumbency are also particularly great with House members, where people often associate their representatives with local constituent services rather than national politics. I looked at a sample of the precincts in Fairfax that are part of Rep. Wolf's (R) congressional district. He won every single one of them, while these precincts split about 50-50 in the senate and presidential contests.

Certainly there is also gerry-mandering but, again, at least locally the districts as drawn seem to work in favor of keeping Connelly's and Moran's districts predictably Democratic, as much as they work in favor of a Republican incumbent like Wolf. If more of the state's population is gravitating towards areas that favor Democrats, that should eventually change the R/D mix of House representatives, but a bunch of incumbents will probably need to retire first.
I agree incumbents have a huge advantage so you really need to wait until there's an open seat. Wolf's district would be a likely target when he retires.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:16 AM
 
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The days of straight-ticket voting are over. More and more people identify as "independents" and pride themselves on splitting tickets. There isn't even party registration in VA.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:26 AM
 
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The days of straight-ticket voting are over. More and more people identify as "independents" and pride themselves on splitting tickets. There isn't even party registration in VA.
The Republican + Democratic vote for all districts combined broke out about 48.5% Democratic and 50.5% Republican while the average margin of victory in each district was about 20%. That's gerrymandering, not ticket splitting.
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