Virginia Succession (Fairfax: authority, office, rating)

[BMOCCC]

I personally believe that the is far too much old growth forest succession in NOVA and that some cutting should be done. Ellanor C. Lawrence Park - Natural History, Fairfax County Park Authority

On another topic, I was wondering if people thought that Virginia should secede from the United States. I personally don't advocate it (yet), but do believe that it should be discussed.

The problem is that voters are not able to elect a president who will control the deficit. As a result, the country is heading for a great crash, but, that's not of concern to Obama who will not be in office, or voters who are only looking out for their self-interests.

I blame it mainly on immigrants who do not understand how this country works. It's not really their fault, as no one tries to inform them. I'm not sure that first-generation immigrants are even capable of fully understanding our Western outlook. Another is immigrants who want racial preferences, particularly Hispanics. This is a REAL problem. Finally, the biased news media, but that's an old topic.

Just wondering that NOVA folks thought about it.

[FindingZen]

On a personal note: since Virginia broke for Obama in the general election, it would appear that the majority of Virginians would not be interested in secession.

On a moderating note: it is easy to see how this topic may quickly devolve into general discussion unrelated to NOVA as well as the revival of general talking points. Doing the exact opposite of these actions will maximize the life of this thread and minimize infractions.

[FindingZen]

I'm also not understanding why you didn't give the public park topic its own thread.

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by BMOCCC

On another topic, I was wondering if people thought that Virginia should secede from the United States. I personally don't advocate it (yet), but do believe that it should be discussed.

Yeah, that worked out real well for us last time. Note it's spelled "secession", not "succession". I was thinking this was going to be a discussion of what happens if the governor dies in office.

[JD984]

Um, why don't we leave that to the Texans? There's enough traffic on the bridges from NoVa into DC without having to go through passport control.

[BMOCCC]

Originally Posted by Tone509

On a personal note: since Virginia broke for Obama in the general election, it would appear that the majority of Virginians would not be interested in secession.

On a moderating note: it is easy to see how this topic may quickly devolve into general discussion unrelated to NOVA as well as the revival of general talking points. Doing the exact opposite of these actions will maximize the life of this thread and minimize infractions.

Good point, but it wasn't by that much, and NOVA apparently makes the difference now in elections. I don't think it's sealed Democratic/deficit spending, etc. yet, which is why now would be an interesting time to discuss it. Any state that could escape having to pay off the deficit or experience the crash would be a fortunate one indeed.

Ellannor C. Lawrence does deserve it's own thread. Just a wonderful place.

[GustavoFring]

I feel this thread will bring out a "succession" of misinformed trolls who likely intend to discuss the ridiculous topic of "secession" but are unable to coherently put together such frenzied thoughts into a realistic discussion and instead have used their frantic bitterness over the perceived loss of the "old country" to those who will lead us into the future as a basis for creating such discussions on forums all over the internet in recent weeks.

[gomason]

What cracks me up about those states that have a lot of people who want to secede is that they are the states that rely on the federal government the most. Go down the list and basically every southern state receives more money from the federal government than the pay in. Who will subsidize these people when they secede?

Frankly, im more interested in nova seceeding from the rest of virginia.

[Caladium]

Since a huge percentage of Virginians are employed by the federal government, why would they want to secede? This strikes me as the last state that would ever want that. Now succeeding is another question. Most people here want to succeed, there's no question about that.

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by GustavoFring

I feel this thread will bring out a "succession" of misinformed trolls who likely intend to discuss the ridiculous topic of "secession" but are unable to coherently put together such frenzied thoughts into a realistic discussion and instead have used their frantic bitterness over the perceived loss of the "old country" to those who will lead us into the future as a basis for creating such discussions on forums all over the internet in recent weeks.

Remember someone raised this on the WV forum and met with an overwhelming smackdown. Of course those folks seceded from the last secession. I do like idea of the secession from RoVA. However that would create a new red state so we'd need to get Puerto Rico admitted in return.