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Old 12-04-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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The new school in Annandale is Mason Crest ES, and it opened this fall:

Mason Crest Elementary School

As far as I'm aware, there aren't other new schools planned in Annandale right now.
I'm sure that's the one that I've heard about. Not too many new schools going up in Fairfax County....
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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Ugh, I am scared to add up how much we spend on gas, particularly for my husband's commute from Chantilly to Stafford. I really should for budgetary purposes. It is insane. It's a HUGE budgetary line, especially if you are living in the exurbs and driving to work on a daily basis.

Had we known he was going to wind up working south again, we would have bought in Lake Ridge or something. Hindsight and all that. Thank goodness I work from home such a large part of the time.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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I'm sure that's the one that I've heard about. Not too many new schools going up in Fairfax County....
FCPS should put out its Capital Improvement Plan for 2014-18 within the next few months. I expect it will discuss building new elementary schools in the Bailey's Crossroads and Tysons areas over the next five years or so. A lot of people would also like FCPS to build a new HS in western Fairfax in the Oak Hill area, but I don't know if that really has any traction yet.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Doesn't Annandale still have plenty of schools from boomer days? Were a bunch shut down or were they just under-enrolled? We seem to have more kids now in Mount Vernon but we've got quite a bit of slack in the the system to absorb them despite having closed some schools.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:40 AM
 
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Doesn't Annandale still have plenty of schools from boomer days? Were a bunch shut down or were they just under-enrolled? We seem to have more kids now in Mount Vernon but we've got quite a bit of slack in the the system to absorb them despite having closed some schools.
At least two had been closed, and new Mason Crest ES is on the site of the former Masonville ES, which had been an administrative building.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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there are several young couples in our TH development in Annandale, which has a pretty good mix of ages, races, marital status and orientation, etc.

I personally doubt many of them are in Annandale due to a cultural shift to walkable urbanism - since its not a particularly easy or pleasant walk to most of the places in commercial Annandale, which themselves are rather narrower in their style (korean food is great but most non-Koreans want some variety I think - and we have no wine shops, no bookstores (other than a Korean Christian one) , no cheese or olive oil shops or yuppie kids clothes shops or the other things I associate with the "cultural shift"

I think to the extent there are young people moving here (and I suspect such movement is spotty - depending on the nature of specific housing) its more due to convenient location relative to DC, Arlington, and Tysons - as people prefer shorter commutes. I guess being more amenable townhouses or older houses to shorten ones commute could be seen as a cultural shift, but thats somewhat different from what people think of when contemplating the transformation of DC, Arlington, Alexandria, and even places like Mosaic district.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:45 AM
 
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Here's a somewhat humorous take on this issue: Millennials Will Destroy Our Cities Coming and Going

But I generally agree that Millenials will move into the suburbs once they start having kids. I'm at the older fringe of the group and many of my friends are young married couples that bought fixer-uppers in Arlington and DC, where they can quickly commute to their jobs and walk to restaurants for dinner. But most of them just accept the fact that they will eventually move to Fairfax or Montgomery for better schools and places for kids to play in a few years - they've basically planned for it all along. The only ones that are planning to stay are those that can afford to buy large, newish homes for $1 million plus and then send their kids to private school.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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I've had some heated exchanges with a few posters on the DC forum about this - they like to refer to this trend as a "cultural shift" toward urban and close-in living, and I tend to think that most people, younger or older, make practical, sensible discussions based on their own set of circumstances. But, the fact that some cities - including DC - are safer than they used to be, and traffic congestion in large metropolitan areas such as ours has gotten worse, are certainly very relevant to decisions that people make. I don't know whether it's really reached a tipping point, though, when the economy also factors heavily into the mix.

Practical sensible decisions are necessarily going to be based on personal preferences - how much do you value being near bike lanes, say vs how much do you value having a large lawn (since those are often tradeoffs) etc = which ARE at least potentially subject to cultural change. So even discounting people choosing "urbanism" for ideological reasons, cultural shift can be at work. I mean most people in America are not living so close to subsistence that they are not in some way making choices that express their preferences, which are rooted in culture.

Of course in the case of DC, Arlington, etc its difficult to seperate the cultural shift from the impact of congestion and gas prices. In places where people reverse commute, or seek "urbanism" in places where traditional suburbia is quite affordable (One Loudoun?) it may be easier to make a case for pure cultural shift. As I said above in someplace like Annandale, the case for pure response to transportation costs (both $ and time) is easier to make. I think there are other close in places that are similar to Annandale in this respect.

I also wonder how we seperate out cultural change from technological and institutional change. A minor example - the growth of bike facilities, and of car sharing services like Zipcar, have made it easier for households to live owning fwer cars (either carfree or "carlite"). That doesnt mean preferences for convenience vs costs vs aesthetics have changed - but that the availability of certain products has shifted the balance (in the other direction, improved gas mileage and alternate fuel cars may make longer auto commute lifestyles more viable, especially if combined with self driving cars)

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Old 12-04-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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The only ones that are planning to stay are those that can afford to buy large, newish homes for $1 million plus and then send their kids to private school.
People in Arlington feel a need to use private schools to stay in the County? I am surprised.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:59 AM
 
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Here's a somewhat humorous take on this issue: Millennials Will Destroy Our Cities Coming and Going

But I generally agree that Millenials will move into the suburbs once they start having kids.
Some will, some won't. There preferences are unlikely to all be the same regarding what they feel is important - a yard vs other things. Schools of course matter to almost all - AFAICT there are many areas in Arlington and Alex where thats not a problem, and of course I suspect a big part of the draw of a place like MetroWest is bit of urbanism tied to FCPS schools. As for DC, the future of DCPS, the viability of charters as an alternative, etc, is a heated topic I don't care to comment on. Certainly it will impact whether or not families with kids over 5 - or over 10 - who have choices will stay in DC in any numbers.
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