New development coming to Annandale

[OrangeFish]

Originally Posted by brooklynborndad

and the layout and traffic of Annandale is problematic - (and the County plan to fix it has not gone anywhere, that I know of).

Which fix are you referring to? The one that involved closing Columbia Pike at 236? I thought that was scrapped?

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by OrangeFish

Which fix are you referring to? The one that involved closing Columbia Pike at 236? I thought that was scrapped?

The one Ive seen had a lot of parts - additional road connections, a reconfigured 236, etc. My understanding is that its on the back burner for lack of funding, not that it was scrapped.

[OrangeFish]

Originally Posted by brooklynborndad

The one Ive seen had a lot of parts - additional road connections, a reconfigured 236, etc. My understanding is that its on the back burner for lack of funding, not that it was scrapped.

I think that's the one that I saw -- parts of John Marr Dr configured as one way, as with parts of 236, with parts of 236 widened to 6 lanes, etc. Thanks!

[FC Merrifield]

Originally Posted by brooklynborndad

But its possible there will be a market specifically for cheaper brand new units, in convenient locations. Think something like this Apartments Near The Atlas District In Northeast DC - Flats At Atlas In Washington, DC 20002 which is cheaper than most new DC buildings, but in a more questionable location (the wrong side of the H Street district) or this Arts District Apartments Hyattsville - The Palette At Arts District Apartments for Rent in Hyattsville, MD 20781

The area by the bowling alley isn't exactly the most attractive for people looking for this sort of thing - and the layout and traffic of Annandale is problematic - (and the County plan to fix it has not gone anywhere, that I know of).

But Annandale is not quite the upscale/hipster amenity desert some people think though - we have an indie coffee roaster Beanetics - The Evolution of Better Coffee a frozen yogurt shop Tutti Frutti Frozen Yogurt - Annandale, VA and an independent local bike shop (no web presence, but they are there near the VW repair place)

That's certainly possible, but again, I never really thought of Annandale as the gateway to Tysons. Maybe others will though. As for those two projects you mentioned, I'm not too familiar with them, but aren't they located closer to the "desired" areas than Annandale is to Tysons? For example, the H Street district is accessible by metro and, more importantly, people perceive the area as up and coming. I have a co-worker who rides his bike from that area to Metro Center in like 10-15 minutes.

I have no idea how hipster Annandale is, but my general feeling is that the area around the bowling alley isn't considered "nice" by hipsters, yuppies, preppies, or whomever else.

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by FC Merrifield

That's certainly possible, but again, I never really thought of Annandale as the gateway to Tysons. Maybe others will though. As for those two projects you mentioned, I'm not too familiar with them, but aren't they located closer to the "desired" areas than Annandale is to Tysons? For example, the H Street district is accessible by metro and, more importantly, people perceive the area as up and coming. I have a co-worker who rides his bike from that area to Metro Center in like 10-15 minutes.

I have no idea how hipster Annandale is, but my general feeling is that the area around the bowling alley isn't considered "nice" by hipsters, yuppies, preppies, or whomever else.

Yeah, I didnt mean to imply that annandale was like Bladensburg road in DC (but the location of Flats at Atlas, is not nice at all - though its pretty close to places that are further along). My point was merely that if new high amenity units (Class A units)at a desired location become too pricey for some folks, while most will choose older units instead, at least a few will choose new Class A units in less desirable locations. And if that happens for Tysons, Im not sure where the place for those units is going to be. Falls Church and Dunn Loring are happening, but those locations are close to metro (the thing about Annandale being far from metro, is that the land costs do not reflect a premium for metro, and for the commuters to Tysons from the south, southeast, southwest metro isn't that big a deal. Why pay a metro access premium to live in Halsted in order to commute from Halsted to Tysons?)

So that leaves places like McLean, Vienna, the Rte 29 corridor out to and through City of Fairfax, as alterrnatives. I don't know much about the prospects for new buildings in Mclean, but the others are either places where zoning will prevent new construction, afaik, or that are more difficult of access to Tysons than Annandale.

Its possible that the supply of new units in Tysons will be sufficient to prevent this - or that there will be a demand for this, but it won't be able to overcome the disamenity value of Annandale. The developer has a couple of years of moving things through the approval and planning pipeline before deciding if the conditions are ripe to build or not.

[Joke Insurance]

Originally Posted by OrangeFish

Which fix are you referring to? The one that involved closing Columbia Pike at 236? I thought that was scrapped?

Are you talking about this?

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpz/com.../annandale.pdf

[OrangeFish]

Originally Posted by Joke Insurance

Are you talking about this?

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpz/com.../annandale.pdf

Thanks for asking. I heard about this one:

http://www.fcrevit.org/annandale/dow...eTransPlan.pdf

and then heard at least two members of the Board of Supervisors state that the option that included making John Marr Dr a one-way east/north-east was scrapped.

But that was a while ago and have heard nothing since.

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by OrangeFish

Thanks for asking. I heard about this one:

http://www.fcrevit.org/annandale/dow...eTransPlan.pdf

and then heard at least two members of the Board of Supervisors state that the option that included making John Marr Dr a one-way east/north-east was scrapped.

But that was a while ago and have heard nothing since.

well good - I don't think we want more wide one way roads - two way gives more route options to drivers, and acts (sort of) as traffic calming - the conversion to two way in old Town Fairfax has worked out, AFAIK.

I hope that does not mean the rest of the project is scrapped though.