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Old 09-09-2014, 06:44 PM
 
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Eventually we'll all fit a profile.
Eventually yes. Eventually all people will die. Eventually nothing matters once you're dead. The question is not about eventuality, the question is about NOW. The articles clearly stated that minorities are the one that bear the most burden of this tactic.

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Old 09-09-2014, 07:24 PM
 
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Eventually yes. Eventually all people will die. Eventually nothing matters once you're dead. The question is not about eventuality, the question is about NOW. The articles clearly stated that minorities are the one that bear the most burden of this tactic.
So it's Ok with you if your fellow Americans' rights are trampled so long as they're minorities? You're a real patriot.

And by the way, one guy in the Post article was a middle-aged white guy driving a BMW.

RIGHT NOW, you as a driver may have some feature that in the mind of some small-town cop makes you just suspicious enough--some minor imperfection in your driving, some subtle quirk of your car, or nothing at all if they're desperate enough for revenue.
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:30 PM
 
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So it's Ok with you if your fellow Americans' rights are trampled so long as they're minorities? You're a real patriot.

And by the way, one guy in the Post article was a middle-aged white guy driving a BMW.

RIGHT NOW, you as a driver may have some feature that in the mind of some small-town cop makes you just suspicious enough--some minor imperfection in your driving, some subtle quirk of your car, or nothing at all if they're desperate enough for revenue.
I could be wrong, but I don't get the feeling that he was "ok" with it just being minorities. I think he was saying that this issue seems to target minorities more (like profiling, perhaps?). These "wrongs" don't get "righted" as often, because minorities are less likely to sue and more likely to sign a waiver (that they won't sue) than non-minorities.
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:41 PM
 
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I was hoping I'd misread his posts, but here's what I see:

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The question is if you fit the profile? If not, well enjoy your good life.
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The articles clearly stated that minorities are the one that bear the most burden of this tactic.
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:44 PM
 
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So it's Ok with you if your fellow Americans' rights are trampled so long as they're minorities? You're a real patriot.

And by the way, one guy in the Post article was a middle-aged white guy driving a BMW.

RIGHT NOW, you as a driver may have some feature that in the mind of some small-town cop makes you just suspicious enough--some minor imperfection in your driving, some subtle quirk of your car, or nothing at all if they're desperate enough for revenue.
I guess you miss the part I was asking about fitting the profile as in profiling.
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:47 PM
 
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I was hoping I'd misread his posts, but here's what I see:
Yes you did.

"The question is if you fit the profile? If not, well enjoy your good life."

Fit the profile as in profiling. If not then enjoy your good life of not being the minority and being profiled.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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Yes you did.

"The question is if you fit the profile? If not, well enjoy your good life."

Fit the profile as in profiling. If not then enjoy your good life of not being the minority and being profiled.
Glad to hear that, but your quote above would seem to imply that if one does not fit the profile (that is, if one is not a minority), then one need not worry about this problem.

Those of us who don't fit the current profile should still fight abuses like this.
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Old 09-10-2014, 07:40 AM
 
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And by the way, one guy in the Post article was a middle-aged white guy driving a BMW.
Well, that could be discrimination of a different type.
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Old 09-10-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Carlingtonian View Post

And by the way, one guy in the Post article was a middle-aged white guy driving a BMW.

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Well, that could be discrimination of a different type.
I don't think you understand profiling. Profiling does not mean all arrested, checked out/bothered are of a certain racial/social criteria. It's about the disproportionate numbers.
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Old 09-10-2014, 05:05 PM
 
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What I wonder about is the dogs.

If you refuse to consent to a search of your car, then they need probable cause. So, here comes the dog. If the dog "alerts" then they have carte blanche to ransack your car and dump your luggage out on the side of the road.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if those dogs are, or can be trained to "alert" on command. I would like to think that couldn't happen in the good ole U. S. of A., but with the monetary incentive LE has now....anything's possible.
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