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Old 10-01-2015, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Savannah, GA
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Or, perhaps, the proliferation of and easy access to guns will just lead to more shootings at schools.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/02...y-college.html

When the latest tragedy is investigated, do you not think there will be more focus on the assailant than on whether the seller was a "nice guy"?

As it has already been stated before, guns themselves do not jump up and kill people; people with ill intentions do. Are there gaps in the current background screening system that allow those with issues get hands on guns? Sure. But the sellers do not make up rules, they simply follow them. Also, if one has no prior arrests or say mental health issues on record, how can we know in advance that person will do something bad when he/she gets their hands on a firearm? Ban all firearms sales? Double edged sword there. We can argue back and forth on this. It all boils down to risk mitigation as opposed to risk elimination, with the latter usually unachievable in a lot of areas like this one.
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Old 10-01-2015, 02:26 PM
 
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Oregon shooting: Reports of 10 dead at Umpqua Community College - CNN.com

10 people killed. 20 injured.

It is just too easy.
Just too easy for what? This conversation? I don't think so. It would if it was a shooting of elementary school children right outside a gun shop. It certainly does not appear to be.

You are against guns. I get it; and it's fine. But you need to take the strict "anti-gun" opinions to the Politics and Other Controversies or Current Events sub-forums. This thread isn't about the merits of pro-gun versus anti-gun. This thread is about the specific situation where a gun shop moved next to a school in McLean.

Fact: Gun Shop located 3 blocks from said school.
Fact: No one protested the location of said shop; or the business at all.
Fact: Gun shop moves next door to school
Fact: Members of community get upset and protest and sign petitions.

Facts still Missing: Why the gun shop is more dangerous in this location than three blocks away? It's a simple question, and when I ask for the answer, all I get is people talking about how all guns are bad. That doesn't answer the question. The question is about proximity to the school.
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Old 10-01-2015, 02:31 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Because some people don't want firearms in their home. Period. There is no other reason needed. I've got 30+ years of life under my belt, and have never felt the need to own a firearm.
No one, as far as I know, has ever or will ever force you or anyone else to buy a firearm or any other product for that matter.
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Old 10-01-2015, 02:40 PM
 
Location: D.C.
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Just too easy for what? This conversation? I don't think so. It would if it was a shooting of elementary school children right outside a gun shop. It certainly does not appear to be.

You are against guns. I get it; and it's fine. But you need to take the strict "anti-gun" opinions to the Politics and Other Controversies or Current Events sub-forums. This thread isn't about the merits of pro-gun versus anti-gun. This thread is about the specific situation where a gun shop moved next to a school in McLean.

Fact: Gun Shop located 3 blocks from said school.
Fact: No one protested the location of said shop; or the business at all.
Fact: Gun shop moves next door to school
Fact: Members of community get upset and protest and sign petitions.

Facts still Missing: Why the gun shop is more dangerous in this location than three blocks away? It's a simple question, and when I ask for the answer, all I get is people talking about how all guns are bad. That doesn't answer the question. The question is about proximity to the school.

True statements, spencgr, sorry amigo!

I personally feel that guns are an adult topic of conversation. For a gun shop to be within constant viewing of elementary-aged children is inappropriate and makes parents uncomfortable with the optics of such an adult situation being visible in a setting that should be about Mickey & Minnie Mouse, ninja turtles, Sophia the first, play time on the playground, and chocolate milk.

It would be like putting a strip club there, or anything along those adult lines of conversation. Kids are very perceptive. They are aware of their surroundings, curious, and engaging. Having Jr. ask "daddy, what's a gun?" is a heartbreaking question to have to answer. My son is 7 years old. He has been exposed to the gun culture through cartoons (amazing to me) and we have talked about guns multiple times. He will tell you exactly what I will tell you - guns are bad.
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Old 10-01-2015, 02:46 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Some perspective:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...919_story.html
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Old 10-01-2015, 03:10 PM
 
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No one, as far as I know, has ever or will ever force you or anyone else to buy a firearm or any other product for that matter.
Fine. I still maintain that it is inappropriate to open a gun store directly adjacent to that McLean elementary school.

Last edited by TheWatchmen; 10-01-2015 at 04:07 PM..
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Old 10-01-2015, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Virginia-Shenandoah Valley
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If pro-gun folks cannot comprehend the reasons why some people do not want a gun store directly adjacent to their neighborhood elementary school, I'd say they are being willfully ignorant, but that would be far too kind.

The thinly veiled snide conjectures about how people just need to be "educated" about THE DANGER OF firearms are tiring.

Guns kill people. Instantly. Violently. Victims of gun violence often die by no choice of their own. This is what many people see in guns. Fast food, cigarettes, alcohol, and pharmaceuticals are not used in that same manner.

I'm happy to report that I know many people in Northern Virginia who do not own guns, do not normalize the practice of gun ownership, and who would be appalled at a gun or any other sort of weapon store opening up adjacent to their neighborhood elementary school. This board is not an entirely accurate cross section of Northern Virginia, probably because there are so many people piping in from the far outer corners of the region.
Fixed for you. See how that works.
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Old 10-01-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Virginia-Shenandoah Valley
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Because some people don't want firearms in their home. Period. There is no other reason needed. I've got 30+ years of life under my belt, and have never felt the need to own a firearm.
And I have 30 + years under my belt as a police officer. I could post all kinds of stories regarding homeowners or shop owners who saved their life or that of a loved one thanks to a gun. Yes, this tit for tat can go both ways but I'm just addressing your comment above. As I stated before. The market should decide whether this store survives or not. Not a small number of gun haters.
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Old 10-01-2015, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Virginia-Shenandoah Valley
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Oregon shooting: Reports of 10 dead at Umpqua Community College - CNN.com

10 people killed. 20 injured.

It is just too easy.
And had some of these in the area been allowed to carry conceal some of these may be alive.
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Old 10-01-2015, 04:07 PM
 
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And had some of these in the area been allowed to carry conceal some of these may be alive.
That's always the solution, isn't it?
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