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Old 01-10-2019, 11:41 PM
 
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Since they had to sell their souls and minds to work for the Government, perhaps, they should try the oldest profession to sell their bodies. Weight loss boot camp might be a good place to start.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:26 AM
 
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Well, at least those government workers will eventually get full back pay.

What about the private contractor employees that will never be paid for lost time. They are the people I really feel bad for. You hardly ever hear anyone talking about them.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Savannah, GA
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Well, at least those government workers will eventually get full back pay.

What about the private contractor employees that will never be paid for lost time. They are the people I really feel bad for. You hardly ever hear anyone talking about them.
Govt contractors do not get furloughed, they keep working nd getting paid; been there, done that. The $ is already has been awarded to a specific contract in those cases.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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It's my understanding that while employees historically have gotten paid - it's not a given. Contractors on the other hand don't have that history but it HAS been talked about extensively on the local news channels.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:00 PM
 
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Govt contractors do not get furloughed, they keep working nd getting paid; been there, done that. The $ is already has been awarded to a specific contract in those cases.
Not always true.

If your job is, say, for the State Department working on classified work and you are on site with the feds, you don't get to come to work. If the condition of your contract is that you provide daily, direct support to a client and the client is furloughed, you don't get to come to work. If you are a contractor that mans a government run help desk and the help desk is shut down, you don't have work to do.

There are actually plenty of contractors that get hit on these furloughs and I believe they end up suffering the worst.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:00 PM
 
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Govt contractors do not get furloughed, they keep working nd getting paid; been there, done that. The $ is already has been awarded to a specific contract in those cases.
Wrong, most government contracts are only for billable hours actually worked. If the agency is shut down, contractors are shut down too. They can't just show up at shutdown agencies as usual and keep working while their government counterparts (who will get back pay) are furloughed.
You can't bill the government for hours not worked.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:03 PM
 
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Well, at least those government workers will eventually get full back pay.

What about the private contractor employees that will never be paid for lost time. They are the people I really feel bad for. You hardly ever hear anyone talking about them.
Totally agree. I will say with this shutdown, more and more news articles and news spots are including the contractors in the mix. I never used to hear that before.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:04 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Well, snow is forecast for this weekend so free lance driveway and sidewalk snow removal is an idea.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Savannah, GA
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Wrong, most government contracts are only for billable hours actually worked. If the agency is shut down, contractors are shut down too. They can't just show up at shutdown agencies as usual and keep working while their government counterparts (who will get back pay) are furloughed.
You can't bill the government for hours not worked.
I speak from personal DoD experience in the past. Suppose it does depend on the agency, however I still had to show up although my gov't counterparts were not there.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:57 PM
 
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I speak from personal DoD experience in the past. Suppose it does depend on the agency, however I still had to show up although my gov't counterparts were not there.
That situation happens too. I also work for DoD and some of our contractors could have still worked if we were shut down, although not indefinitely. Depends on where your desk is situated (on or off site), how much client interaction is required to bill/invoice, an how much of the project continues when the government office is closed. If you are a defense contractor that builds/designs weapons, that can go on as long as you're funded. If you provide direct professional support services it gets more murky.
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