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Old 08-21-2019, 06:20 AM
 
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So, yes, I am in NoVA; and in the country, too. I live in Middleburg (Loudoun Co.) and will say it is probably more "country" than where you live, because I don't have a big box store or fast food chain within 20 minutes of my house (and I think that is great!) It takes my about an hour 15 minutes in the morning to get downtown; and about an hour 30 to get home in the evening. On a normal weekend, I can get to the city in an hour, so, yes, I consider that an "easy" access for museums, theater, etc.


Look, it is not for everyone. But I feel I get the best of both worlds. A fantastic job in a thriving urban environment; and the ability to decompress is a gorgeous bucolic setting of horse farms and vineyards. Yes, a longer commute than I would prefer; but totally worth it for getting everything else.


(And by the way, I am rarely "sitting" in traffic; as that would be (I agree) soul crushing. My commute is long, but generally moving at speed.)
Middleburg is great if you have a minimum of $1 million to spend on a house. And I use the term great very loosely. I don't consider it the country at all. Anything within an hour of NOVA is crowded. It's really no different than being in Harper's Ferry. Cute, quaint, but insanely crowded on the weekends. And if you don't have a big box stores within 20 minutes, it's not because of distance. It's because of traffic. It takes hours to get anywhere on 50. Middleburg is not in the country at all. It's an oasis between Chantilly/South Riding and Winchester. And South Riding is about as boring and generic as you can get. Where you live is really no different than living in Clifton. In fact, Clifton is much better. I'll add that it's comical that you seemingly brag about "not having a big box stores.". I mean, there is a Safeway right in town still right? Also, all those stores in town that aren't "big box" can charge the NOVAdouche mark up. It's like going to a tourist town. It's awful. And for the record, I don't live in the country. I live in the city of Staunton. But I'm actually isolated. Got everything I need, including 50x more mom and pop shops than you could ever dream of, but I can go 3 miles outside of town and I'm in the middle of nowhere.

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Old 08-21-2019, 07:18 AM
 
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Middleburg is great if you have a minimum of $1 million to spend on a house.
Wrong. Very wrong. Do some research.


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I don't consider it the country at all.

It is surrounded directly by 16k acres of protected lands; never to be developed. It is the country.


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It's really no different than being in Harper's Ferry. Cute, quaint, but insanely crowded on the weekends
Well, there's your tell that you never come here. "Insanely crowded" on weekends? What? Yeah, for the one weekend we have the Christmas parade. But other than that, it is fine. Are there more people on the weekends? Sure. Do people wait in long lines of traffic to get here and then leave? Not a chance.


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And if you don't have a big box stores within 20 minutes, it's not because of distance. It's because of traffic.

Again, not true. My closest big box is 15 miles away. In the middle of the night, I can't get there faster than 20 minutes.


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I'll add that it's comical that you seemingly brag about "not having a big box stores.". I mean, there is a Safeway right in town still right? .

Yes, you are right, we do have a small grocery store in town. My guess is that you don't really know what "big box" means.


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Where you live is really no different than living in Clifton.

Well, it's a lot different than Clifton, because of the protected lands and farms surrounding the town. Not that I have an issue with Clifton; just very different.
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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Wrong. Very wrong. Do some research.





It is surrounded directly by 16k acres of protected lands; never to be developed. It is the country.



Well, there's your tell that you never come here. "Insanely crowded" on weekends? What? Yeah, for the one weekend we have the Christmas parade. But other than that, it is fine. Are there more people on the weekends? Sure. Do people wait in long lines of traffic to get here and then leave? Not a chance.





Again, not true. My closest big box is 15 miles away. In the middle of the night, I can't get there faster than 20 minutes.





Yes, you are right, we do have a small grocery store in town. My guess is that you don't really know what "big box" means.





Well, it's a lot different than Clifton, because of the protected lands and farms surrounding the town. Not that I have an issue with Clifton; just very different.
You're right. I did find some places for a half a mil. Hope you like sharing bathrooms though. I worked in Chantilly, so I know the area quite well. We had people commuting for Aldie and Upperville. It's everything I said it is, and I'm coming from the perspective of 10 years ago. So I'm doubting it became less crowded. And sorry, I don't consider anything a stones throw from South Riding to be "the country.". I bet there are lots of hipsters there though. Lots of Subaru traffic jams. It's country like parts of Manassas are country. And insanely crowded also means that you must deal with the Winchester commuters. Again, true. 15 miles=15 minutes. And no, sorry, you have a major chain grocery store in town. Big box is any major chain. My family is from Vermont, so I think I know Mom and Pop a wee bit better than you. Clifton has a lot of ordinances that keep it a rural oasis in the middle of NOVA. Plus they have a quaint little town. It's ok. You do you, and I'll do me. You love crowds, hipsters, high prices and traffic. Enjoy all that.
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:43 AM
 
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But back to the OP. You're right. NOVA is by far the worst place to live in the entire state. Unless you want that sort of life and you have a job that pays $200k+, you're much better off working at the Sheetz in Luray.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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Hope you like sharing bathrooms though.
What's so terrible about that? When I was growing up in middle class Brooklyn, my parents, my brother and myself all shared one bathroom. And yes, it was an idyllic childhood.

When did we Americans decide that we can't live with less than one bathroom per person?
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:51 AM
 
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I mean, there is a Safeway right in town still right? Also, all those stores in town that aren't "big box" can charge the NOVAdouche mark up.
it appears to me that there are other varieties of Virginia douches.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:55 AM
 
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What's so terrible about that? When I was growing up in middle class Brooklyn, my parents, my brother and myself all shared one bathroom. And yes, it was an idyllic childhood.

When did we Americans decide that we can't live with less than one bathroom per person?
Growing up in Brooklyn is an idyllic childhood. Whatever floats your boat. I share a bathroom now, but the factor the matter was that I was seeing 2 bedroom 1 bath places for half a million. The point was more that you're money doesn't go very far in Middleburg. I wasn't aware I had to spell everything out.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:56 AM
 
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it appears to me that there are other varieties of Virginia douches.
You grew up in Brooklyn. Takes one to know one eh?
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:22 AM
 
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yes, you are correct. Staunton is the best place to live in the US. It is why everyone is clamoring to get there. Enjoy your life spending all of your time and energy talking about how other places suck.
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:12 AM
 
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yes, you are correct. Staunton is the best place to live in the US. It is why everyone is clamoring to get there. Enjoy your life spending all of your time and energy talking about how other places suck.
I never once said Staunton was the best place in the US. But we have air quality that's 3x better than you, and it only takes me a little longer than it takes you to get to DC. And I don't have to pay the hipster premium for things like farm fresh food. If you go by statistics, everyone is clamoring to get to North Carolina and Florida. So by your assumption, those are great places? And for the record, Staunton sucks. Don't bother even visiting. I could use less of you people around.
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