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Old 08-21-2019, 12:55 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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A wise man once posted this on the words yuppie vs hipster

Grasshopper,

A yuppie was a young urban professional. Ideally a former 1960s hippie, who returned to grad school in the late 1970s, and became a professional - couldnt bare to live in the burbs, moved to a sketchy city nabe and fixed up a house.

In 1982 or so, with the revival of Wall Street, it came to mean any young, affluent professional living in a city. Esp if they had tastes for currently fashionable consumer products (remember the chocolate chip cookie craze?) or for "light" things (white wine, for example)

In 1984 the national news mags (remember them?) decided that Gary Hart (remember him?) won in New hampshire because of the yuppie vote. Since NH did not have any real cities, Yuppie was redefined as Young Upwardly mobile professional, without regard to whether said yuppies were actually doing better than their parents or not.

Around that time the movie Wall Street was released, and some people decided Gordon Gecko was a yuppie. After this any wealthy person who was not actually a red neck, and was under 45 or so, was a yuppie.

Today, needless to say, with the original yuppies seeking retirement homes that have yoga studios and white wine, the word can mean almost anything.

Hipsters vaguely echoes the beat poets, and their rebellion against modern (as in post 1945) consumerism, sexual puritanism, etc. It also is vaguely suggestive of hippies. It got caught up in the post modernist celebration of irony that came to dominate the art world sometime after 1985 or so. Irony supposedly died on 9/11/2001 (remember that?) but apparently it did not. Hipster can be used for any young person who A. Loves irony B Is involved in the arts C. Uses their consumption choices to express their social values in some way D. earns a living in a way people over 40 can't fathom E Is white, educated, and lives in an urban area, but dislikes "yuppies" (whatever they are)

To many people all yuppies are hipsters. To others all hipsters are yuppies. They are disliked for going to starbucks, for boycotting starbucks, for driving up rents, for squatting, and for a host of other evils of our time.

Now go practice your kung fu fighting.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:56 PM
 
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I wasn't suggesting anything. I was just countering your remark.[/QUOT

I judge people's douchery by how they behave, including online.

all you did was reference that I am from Brooklyn.

How is that a counter?
I said takes one to know one. Guess that one got over your head.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:57 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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Um, lmao? If you want history, you have to leave NOVA. With the exception of a few places like Gunston Hall and My Vernon, they've knocked it all down for development. Vibrant? Are you even listening to yourself?

For that you should be sentenced to watching the video of every meeting of the Board of Architectural Review for the last two years.

Have fun.

And yeah, vibrant. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:57 PM
 
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Probably not.
I moved there in 1979. So I was there for a little while at least.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:58 PM
 
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I said takes one to know one. Guess that one got over your head.
Nah I went to middle school also. We called it Junior High in Brooklyn.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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Still not clear on what you mean by "hipster"?

It used to mean people generally artists, who pursued a culture of irony, and sometimes some kind of counter culture fashions (which were criticized for being too conformist in their own way).

For the last 15 years, at least, its been used mainly as a derogatory word for young people the speaker does not like. Sometimes, yes, it is used for any liberal white person. Sometimes for any young college educated person.

I don't know what YOU mean by it. Please tell us.
Changing the subject after I pointed out your Trump loving area? Typical. What is an "artist?". If you mean unemployed, just say unemployed. No need for creative little titles that simply mean unemployed. I use it to refer to people who like craft beer, beard balm, and carpentry. Good enough for ya?
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Old 08-21-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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Nah I went to middle school also. We called it Junior High in Brooklyn.
We called it Junior high in Fairfax county. Point?
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Old 08-21-2019, 01:03 PM
 
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For that you should be sentenced to watching the video of every meeting of the Board of Architectural Review for the last two years.

Have fun.

And yeah, vibrant. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
I've been to historical south Riding est 2002. All of the historical sites are beautifully surrounded by mcmansions.
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Old 08-21-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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Changing the subject after I pointed out your Trump loving area? Typical. What is an "artist?". If you mean unemployed, just say unemployed. No need for creative little titles that simply mean unemployed. I use it to refer to people who like craft beer, beard balm, and carpentry. Good enough for ya?
There are precious few people who like beard balm and carpentry in NoVa.

Craft beer? Seriously man? Staunton has FIVE microbreweries. Alexandria has two (a third if you count a chain brew pub that will be history with redevelopment), and has six times the population.
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Old 08-21-2019, 01:05 PM
 
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We called it Junior high in Fairfax county. Point?
I can understand a middle school response.
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