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Old 02-06-2013, 01:00 PM
 
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NOVA is home to me. We probably won't leave until our children graduate. This area has too much oppertunity to leave. Traffic is a bit much but there's a price for everything.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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I may get rotten tomatoes thrown at me for saying this, but I think for most areas, you get out of it what you put into it in terms of your attitude.

If you spend all your time looking at and focusing on the negative instead of focusing on the positive, of course you're going to be miserable.

Have an hour-long commute? Instead of looking at it as a negative, why not turn it into a positive and get books on tape or podcasts and spend that time getting educated on a new subject?

Think people are unfriendly and only care about themselves? There are plenty of volunteer opportunities in the area where you can surround yourself with less-fortunate people who will gladly give you a smile and a warm "Thank you" for your efforts.

Also, there are so many pluses and minuses to every area. I lived in the DC metro area for two and a half years, then spent a few years in Idaho, now I'm coming back to the DC metro area. There are so many advantages to NoVA/DC that we don't have here in Idaho. Access to amazing museums, better schools, MUCH MUCH more stable economy/job opportunities, better and more variety of restaurants/entertainment. I could go on and on. Yes, I travel 35 miles in 35 minutes for my commute now, which is absurd to think about there, and you only have to go a mile outside of the city to get some peace and quiet, but it's all about tradeoffs.

I just wish more people took responsibility for their outlook on life rather than thinking a change of scenery is going to automatically change their level of happiness. It's all about your attitude. Have a crappy attitude, you'll have a crappy life. That may seem idealistic to you, but it's worked for me my whole life. And I wouldn't say I've had the easiest life, either.

Ok, rant over.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:59 PM
 
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Areas with a low cost of living usually have one major disadvantage: the lack of gainful employment opportunities. That and along with being sick of my hometown brought me here.

The problem is if you get laid off in a cheap area, you will have a really hard time finding a similar paying job without moving. Some people in my hometown elected to take a lower paying job instead, which works too since it's so cheap to live there.

This is probably why it feels like there is more of a negative environment in my hometown vs here as there is far more unemployment and underemployment there. I also know unemployment is one of the leading causes of depression.

Of course, the above does not apply to people in the medical field (nurses, doctors, etc...) as every one I know who became a nurse or doctor was able to stay in the area.
This has been my experience, and is one of the reasons I'm moving back to the DC area.

I was laid off from my job in 2010. It took me almost 2 years to find a new job. Luckily, I was able to scrape by doing freelance work, and one of my freelance clients asked me to come on full time JUST as my COBRA was about to run out. With two small kids, talk about a lifesaver.

Not only that, but opportunities for career growth are more stagnant here. It's not like there are tons of upper-level management jobs in a small town.

That's the biggest downside to living where I live (eastern Idaho). If you get laid off or you want to move up the career ladder, most of the time you'll have to move to a bigger market anyway.
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Chester County, PA
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I may get rotten tomatoes thrown at me for saying this, but I think for most areas, you get out of it what you put into it in terms of your attitude.

If you spend all your time looking at and focusing on the negative instead of focusing on the positive, of course you're going to be miserable.

Have an hour-long commute? Instead of looking at it as a negative, why not turn it into a positive and get books on tape or podcasts and spend that time getting educated on a new subject?

Think people are unfriendly and only care about themselves? There are plenty of volunteer opportunities in the area where you can surround yourself with less-fortunate people who will gladly give you a smile and a warm "Thank you" for your efforts.

Also, there are so many pluses and minuses to every area. I lived in the DC metro area for two and a half years, then spent a few years in Idaho, now I'm coming back to the DC metro area. There are so many advantages to NoVA/DC that we don't have here in Idaho. Access to amazing museums, better schools, MUCH MUCH more stable economy/job opportunities, better and more variety of restaurants/entertainment. I could go on and on. Yes, I travel 35 miles in 35 minutes for my commute now, which is absurd to think about there, and you only have to go a mile outside of the city to get some peace and quiet, but it's all about tradeoffs.

I just wish more people took responsibility for their outlook on life rather than thinking a change of scenery is going to automatically change their level of happiness. It's all about your attitude. Have a crappy attitude, you'll have a crappy life. That may seem idealistic to you, but it's worked for me my whole life. And I wouldn't say I've had the easiest life, either.

Ok, rant over.
Couldn't agree more! Of course, online forums don't really lend themselves to people with such perspective - they're usually out there enjoying their lives instead of posting messages online
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Maine
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The title of this thread is "SO SICK of the DC metro area!!!!" What does one expect to find here--stories of how their privileged children receive the best schooling and socialization at the top public schools in the United States and everyone has a gorgeous home in a walkable, charming, crime-free neighborhood with no nasty chain stores, and parents have secure, lucrative jobs? Another thread for venting:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/north...m-blowing.html

Frustrated people can complain on this thread. If one wants to read upbeat cheerleader posts from NoVA/DC fans, there are plenty of those.

No need to give the sanctimonious lecture about bad attitudes and "you get what you give" because we lived there for 6 years and chose to leave. People who have never had children in NoVA public schools and been around rather aggressive, clique-y parents have no idea how frustrating and isolating some situations can be.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Different strokes for different folks.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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People who have never had children in NoVA public schools and been around rather aggressive, clique-y parents have no idea how frustrating and isolating some situations can be.
Another reason for home schooling, which is pretty popular in NoVA?
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:47 AM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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The title of this thread is "SO SICK of the DC metro area!!!!" What does one expect to find here--stories of how their privileged children receive the best schooling and socialization at the top public schools in the United States and everyone has a gorgeous home in a walkable, charming, crime-free neighborhood with no nasty chain stores, and parents have secure, lucrative jobs? Another thread for venting:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/north...m-blowing.html

Frustrated people can complain on this thread. If one wants to read upbeat cheerleader posts from NoVA/DC fans, there are plenty of those.

No need to give the sanctimonious lecture about bad attitudes and "you get what you give" because we lived there for 6 years and chose to leave. People who have never had children in NoVA public schools and been around rather aggressive, clique-y parents have no idea how frustrating and isolating some situations can be.
Amen. No place should be free of criticism, and there are some things that attitude just isn't going to fix.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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I may disagree with the premise of this thread but I think it makes for a good one-stop shop for people considering moving here to understand the area's down-sides. Some of the things I don't particularly care for are:

1. Concentrations of wealth and poverty
2. Poor regional planning
3. Lack of adequate Northeast-Southwest driving routes.
4. No service stations along the Fairfax County Parkway
5. Mediocre dining choices in many areas
6. Poor water quality in the Potomac South of DC
7. Unimagintive residential architecture
8. Summer humidity

That said I love the immediate area where I live.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:11 AM
 
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It's a forum. Any post that extrapolates from one's individual experience to make across-the-board assertions that NoVa is either terrible or great is going to prompt contrary responses. It's true when someone is "venting," and it's true when someone is in what another poster used to refer to as "sunshine and puppies" mode. When people simply relate their personal experiences, that tends to be accepted more at face value, although even that will sometimes prompt "it's not me, it's you" responses here.

The irony here is that the OP in this thread was apparently able to get out of the area and move to North Carolina and has since defended the Research Triange area when people started "SO SICK of the Triad area!!!"-type threads. And so the cycle repeats itself!

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