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04-11-2009, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis16
Lets get the facts straight, 20 something year old. Come see me at Ft. Belvoir on the weekends if you think I somehow lack discipline. Just because your disgruntled about not making the grades to attend college straight from high school, don't place your anger on these boards. Also, your alittle to old to be part of our generation. Seeing as how "my" generation doesn't label people as brown with quotes around it.
I never got pulled over by the cop at 7-11. I was in the store and walking out. The car incident happened on a different day.
Anyways, keep spewing your immaturity. It further proves my point and adds more to my "me" ego.
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Considering you graduated high school a few years ago, you are still a child (as your attitude is showing on this forum). I wanted to serve my country and see the world when I came out of high school, it had nothing to do with grades. Believe it or not, some people just want to serve their community and country, that is why they become police officers, firefighters, and military members.
The "brown" comment is you taking things out of context, again. It was actually defending people of color. Dont push your politically correct BS on me.
You never explained the "badge number" deal. It's hard to get the officers "badge number" when their badges do not have numbers on them. Yet another lie. I see a pattern...
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04-11-2009, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nitrovic
Considering you graduated high school a few years ago, you are still a child (as your attitude is showing on this forum). I wanted to serve my country and see the world when I came out of high school, it had nothing to do with grades. Believe it or not, some people just want to serve their community and country, that is why they become police officers, firefighters, and military members.
The "brown" comment is you taking things out of context, again. It was actually defending people of color. Dont push your politically correct BS on me.
You never explained the "badge number" deal. It's hard to get the officers "badge number" when their badges do not have numbers on them. Yet another lie. I see a pattern...
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My attitude? Haha, you're the one arguing with a "child" on the internet. 
Keep telling yourself that but we can all concur from your lack of intelligence how much brain mass you actually are missin'.
I never said you were defending or not defending. You said "brown", enough said. How out of touched you are with the normal man is astonishing.
It was the number that was listed on his badge or an emblem attached to the bottom of the badge. Whether it was a code #, badge #,etc. there was a number there no point in me making up bs.
In conclusion though, I admit my slight immaturity. If you respond to this you are further adding to your perpetual display of childness.
As I wait...........
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04-11-2009, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigfoot424
PWC Police Officer for 25 years. I am more qualified than you.
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So being a cop equates to having a higher degree of qualification? Last I checked, there's quite a group of ppl. that hated cops. Now with this in mind, logically speaking, if cops are hated, how can they actually be intouched with a neighborhood/city?
I rest my case. 
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04-11-2009, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis16
My attitude? Haha, you're the one arguing with a "child" on the internet. 
Keep telling yourself that but we can all concur from your lack of intelligence how much brain mass you actually are missin'.
I never said you were defending or not defending. You said "brown", enough said. How out of touched you are with the normal man is astonishing.
It was the number that was listed on his badge or an emblem attached to the bottom of the badge. Whether it was a code #, badge #,etc. there was a number there no point in me making up bs.
In conclusion though, I admit my slight immaturity. If you respond to this you are further adding to your perpetual display of childness.
As I wait...........
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I'll beat him to it. There is NO number, cloth or otherwise, on the badge of any PW officer.
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04-11-2009, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis16
So being a cop equates to having a higher degree of qualification? Last I checked, there's quite a group of ppl. that hated cops. Now with this in mind, logically speaking, if cops are hated, how can they actually be intouched with a neighborhood/city?
I rest my case. 
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Do some homework and you'll find surveys that have been completed by an in state college. I believe it's been done at least 2 times. Both were large surveys taken from broad sections of citizens in PW and each time the department rated very high in all categories for the PD. Now I'm certain you belong to a clique that "hates" the police but this is to be expected. Troublemakers usually do.
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04-12-2009, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigfoot424
Do some homework and you'll find surveys that have been completed by an in state college. I believe it's been done at least 2 times. Both were large surveys taken from broad sections of citizens in PW and each time the department rated very high in all categories for the PD. Now I'm certain you belong to a clique that "hates" the police but this is to be expected. Troublemakers usually do.
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Shake my head.
Recent studies determined that the average IQ for law enforcement nationwide is at the critical side of low.
National spokesperson William (Bill) Lowery stated that the reasons are clear. It has nothing to do with the very low wages. It's all about the position of power. We seem to attract the people that need to feel superior to the average citizen.
Everyone of higher intelligence seek better pay with less confrontation. City and county police are by far the lowest. Then State and Federal. Studies show that each officer should be appointed insted of hired. This puts pressure for a higher level of law enforcement on a board of elected officials.
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This is not the first time I’ve seen a story like this, it is apparently typical hiring policy for police in many areas. Let’s face it, they want a dumbed-down police force that’s just smart enough to follow orders. We just can’t have our police thinking too much or questioning procedure!
This story says that the average I.Q. for a cop is 104, if that is accurate it means there are thousands of police with I.Q.’s in the 80-100 range. Is it any surprise then that incidents of police brutality and abuses upon citizens (as well as the Constitution) are now so frequent?
From Ananova: A US man has been rejected in his bid to become a police officer for scoring too high on an intelligence test.
Robert Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took an exam to join the New London police, in Connecticut, in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125.
But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.
Mr Jordan launched a federal lawsuit against the city, but lost.
The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discriminate against Mr Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.
He said: “This kind of puts an official face on discrimination in America against people of a certain class. I maintain you have no more control over your basic intelligence than your eye color or your gender or anything else.”
He said he does not plan to take any further legal action and has worked as a prison guard since he took the test.
The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.
plenty more where that came from.
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04-12-2009, 10:03 AM
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Obviously I've come in a little late on this discussion... but I am having a hard time seeing how some of the more recent posts have anything to do with Marumsco Village.
Getting back to the original topic will lengthen the life of this thread.
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04-12-2009, 10:41 AM
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The truth of the matter, Nemesis, is the test in question is generic in nature and does not pertain solely to police work. A Psychologist for Mr. Jordan stated the following-
"On the other hand, an expert witness for Mr. Jordan was paid $350 an
hour for his conclusion that patrol work is "cognitively complex and
intellectually demanding." The expert, Frank J. Landy, a psychologist
in Walnut Creek, Calif., pointed to the demands of such modern
practices as community-oriented policing as an indication of "the
range and challenge of tasks performed by a typical patrol officer."
BTW, this happened in 1996 and I haven't seen it come up again. Furthermore, Mr. Jordan was employed at the time as a corrections officer.
I know you think you are high and mighty because you have a degree, but guess what, so do I!! In fact, a lot of big departments require a degree for employment and/or promotion. Having said that, I would take a prior military officer over a college brat anyday. The job entails a lot more than listening to some liberal professor ramble and throwing keg parties at the Delta house. Prior military members have learned discipline, integrity, and leadership. None of which is taught at any non military college.
What ever happened to the "badge number" you got off that PWC Officer? You know, the badge number that doesn't exist???
To the original poster- I would stay away from anything with the name Marumsco in it. If you are single and only have yourself to worry about, maybe it would be a good fit. Personally, I wouldn't want my kids living there.
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04-12-2009, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tone509
Obviously I've come in a little late on this discussion... but I am having a hard time seeing how some of the more recent posts have anything to do with Marumsco Village.
Getting back to the original topic will lengthen the life of this thread.
Happy Easter/Passover everyone. 
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You're right. I'll ignore junior and get back to the topic on hand.
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04-12-2009, 06:16 PM
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The truth of the matter, Nemesis, is the test in question is generic in nature and does not pertain solely to police work. A Psychologist for Mr. Jordan stated the following-
"On the other hand, an expert witness for Mr. Jordan was paid $350 an
hour for his conclusion that patrol work is "cognitively complex and
intellectually demanding." The expert, Frank J. Landy, a psychologist
in Walnut Creek, Calif., pointed to the demands of such modern
practices as community-oriented policing as an indication of "the
range and challenge of tasks performed by a typical patrol officer."
BTW, this happened in 1996 and I haven't seen it come up again. Furthermore, Mr. Jordan was employed at the time as a corrections officer.
I know you think you are high and mighty because you have a degree, but guess what, so do I!! In fact, a lot of big departments require a degree for employment and/or promotion. Having said that, I would take a prior military officer over a college brat anyday. The job entails a lot more than listening to some liberal professor ramble and throwing keg parties at the Delta house. Prior military members have learned discipline, integrity, and leadership. None of which is taught at any non military college.
What ever happened to the "badge number" you got off that PWC Officer? You know, the badge number that doesn't exist???
To the original poster- I would stay away from anything with the name Marumsco in it. If you are single and only have yourself to worry about, maybe it would be a good fit. Personally, I wouldn't want my kids living there.
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First off nitrovic, this was never an attack at you. I was merely responding to Bigfoot's comments about the supposedly highly touted PWC PD.
You are correct that the test is mundane in nature, but without trying to sound too "high and mighty" so is policing the public except for detective work, crash investigation, crime prevention units, and the like. If you dont agree to this then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
Correction to the part in bold, I do not have a degree yet. I would have graduated by now but like I stated in a previous post; to reiterate I took some time off to join the Army Reserves as a 35F so I DO understand where you are coming from by stereotyping the "typical college kid." Although I don't necessary agree that the military makes you a better person cuz heck, I've seen my share of goofballs while at basic, AIT, and the present. Also, I know quite a few enlistees who are in S. Korea and other various locations around the world acting like hooligans on the daily. Values, discipline,etc. are instilled upon you early on in life, the military just refines these things to make you a better person for the most part.
To the OP, I will co-sign that Marumsco isn't the most shabby of places to live. Although I've found that life in general is whatever you make of it. I don't necessary believe you will sacrifice comfort by living there, but there are some other better locations but expect to pay a higher premium. Good luck!
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