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Old 12-17-2009, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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Default One more reason I'm glad I live in Nova, not Oregon, California, or Illinois

No offense towards Oregon, California, or Illinois, they're great places. But I think this early release program for prisoners is a big mistake. Governor Schwarzenegger proposed releasing 27,000 inmates--I know it's a budget issue, but that would make me nervous if I still lived there.

I'm very glad Virginia's governor rejected an early release proposal this year.

With bleak economic forecast, some states free prisoners early - CNN.com
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:17 PM
 
Location: The OC to NOVA
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Holy moly. Seriously? I have not yet heard that.
I am from CA, no, I didnt vote for the guy - either time, this is insane. Yes, the budget there is bad and they are looking at laying off my former co-workers with the County of Orange, but to let 27,000 inmates go is bad.
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:38 PM
 
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Yes but we Virginians will be subsidizing Medicaid for Nebraska in perpetuity since Harry Reid just used our tax dollars to buy sell-out Ben Nelson's vote on the health care bill ...
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:57 PM
 
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I am totally in favor of releasing nonviolent criminals to help the NOVA budget. This should be a no brainer decision. And legalize it already, and then tax the **** out of it.

/not a stoner, nor have I ever used, but I have yet to hear an argument against doing this.
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:03 PM
 
Location: DC Metro/NoVA
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In February Kaine proposed to early release "non-violent criminals" from 30 days early to 90: then close 2 prisons, saving "tens of millions of dollars" Nonviolent Inmates Could Get Out Early - washingtonpost.com. I believe GOP blocked that.

Dec19th Kaine proposed, importing out-of-state criminals (such as California's). "Leases 1,000 prison beds to out-of-state inmates to raise $19.8 million."
This would be combined with "Cuts $73.4 million from local police departments."
Official Site of the Governor of Virginia.

also Kaine: End car tax, raise Virginia income tax 1 percent | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

I think McDonnell is going to get all these ideas killed.McDonnell, GOP lawmakers assail Kaine's budget plan | Charlottesville Daily Progress (http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/state_regional/state_regional_govtpolitics/article/mcdonnell_gop_lawmakers_assail_kaines_budget_plan/50202/ - broken link)

I especially hate the importing other inmates. Taking in Illinois inmates so they can make room for Gitmo Enemy Combatants that should not be here? Geez..
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:10 AM
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Location: Washington, D.C.
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I am totally in favor of releasing nonviolent criminals to help the NOVA budget. This should be a no brainer decision. And legalize it already, and then tax the **** out of it.

/not a stoner, nor have I ever used, but I have yet to hear an argument against doing this.
I have to take issue with this entire idea of "Non-Violent" inmates somehow being better than "Violent" inmates. Think about it like this, how many of us could one day find ourselves in a fist fight, which we never set out to do, but we simply became involved in it by circumstance? That can happen to anyone of us here, and you can be locked up for it, then subsequently declared a "Violent" offender.

On the other hand, think of how far someone has to go out of their way to intentionally sell drugs, and to in fact make a business out of it. Think of how many lives and families someone like that screws up in their greedy and careless pursuit, and then realize that even if they are arrested, charged, and convicted, they are still declared a "Non-Violent" offender.

The bottom line, is that there shouldn't exist this Black & White distinction between the two labels, as it should in fact be a case-by-case basis.
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