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Old 01-08-2010, 09:28 PM
 
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Eliminating all 8 cluster offices might save that much. Would anyone notice or care?
So how many oldies are here that remember the days of Area Offices? At one time FCPS was divided into four areas, then I think they went down to three. Then the Cluster model came in to make it closer to the schools, and they were physically spread out in the location of their clusters. Now, everyone is housed basicaly at Gatehouse, although many departments are moving out to "The Ridge". Which model is better, I don't know, but I do know from the information out I don't think we are as top heavy as many think.

Check out "The Bottom Line", the newslatter FCPS is going to be putting out throughout this, The Bottom Line - FCPS This is supposed to keep the information updated, as well as deal with rumors. The right sidebar now has the response to the size of central administration staff.
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Old 01-09-2010, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Did you watch the meeting? Dr Dale spoke at length about cuts in administration...reductions implemented so far number in the hundreds with more to come.
No, I did not watch the meeting. But thanks for asking in your gracious, charming way, Car54.

A reliable source on another website said the FCPS central office cuts were primarily blue collar workers (custodial jobs), not expensive administrators or curriculum developers who do no teaching. Since this is still only talking/planning, there is no way to prove it.

What positions in FCPS central office are proposed to be eliminated? And when the cuts do happen, what source has the actual facts, and not misrepresentation?

I don't trust the people in the central office to be honest and ethical.
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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I find it hard to believe that Arlington and Alexandria are spending over $18,000 per pupil. If they are, their taxpayers would be better off closing ALL their public schools and sending every student to a private school. It would be cheaper.
Check out page 30 of the WABE report for 2010.

Washington Area Boards of Education - FY 2010 WABE Guide

This is where I found those numbers. The report comes out each year with a lot of info.
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:26 AM
 
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These numbers come from the Pr. Wm. 2009 Budget (you can find the entire report on their site). They use the comparisons to show the amount of money we are spending per student compared to our neighboring counties so Arlington and Alexandria are spending WAYYYY more than Pr. Wm.


Arlington: $19,538
Alexandria: 19,078
Falls Church: 18,311
Montgomery: 14,705
Fairfax: 13,340
Manassas: 13,105
Loudon: 12,780
Prince George: 12,107
Pr. Wm: 10,776
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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These numbers come from the Pr. Wm. 2009 Budget (you can find the entire report on their site). They use the comparisons to show the amount of money we are spending per student compared to our neighboring counties so Arlington and Alexandria are spending WAYYYY more than Pr. Wm.


Arlington: $19,538
Alexandria: 19,078
Falls Church: 18,311
Montgomery: 14,705
Fairfax: 13,340
Manassas: 13,105
Loudon: 12,780
Prince George: 12,107
Pr. Wm: 10,776
Yep, those are the same numbers from the WABE report. Per pupil spending is actually going down for 2010.
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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This article from The Post is interesting. It explains how counties in the area stand to gain or lose funding based on upcoming formula decisions in Richmond:

Bounty may bypass N.Va. schools if formula change is delayed
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Old 01-11-2010, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly DC and Phila
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Wow, thanks for that article. It really does seem unfair and a kick in Northern Virginia's butt.
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Old 01-22-2010, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Regarding the above referenced funding formula, this is from the most recent FCPS publication of The Bottom Line:



In terms of state funding, Virginia "equalizes" educational funding to its counties and cities through a formula called the local composite index (LCI). While this formula is somewhat complicated, the idea behind the LCI is to provide more state funding to school systems with the least local ability to pay.
How does Virginia measure a city or county’s ability to pay? Fifty percent of the measure is based on the value of real estate and public service corporations, another 10 percent of the formula is retail sales tax revenue, and 40 percent of the measure is based on adjusted gross income—with the total of these measures divided by average daily membership and population. Because Fairfax is a relatively wealthy county compared to many in Virginia, the school system has typically not fared well under this system. However, this year, because of the decline in Fairfax’s property values, applying the LCI would increase the percentage of state funding for FCPS, which would result in $61 million sent directly to the school system.
But the cheering shouldn’t begin yet. In his proposed budget, outgoing Governor Tim Kaine requested that—for the first time ever—the application of the LCI be frozen in order to "hold harmless" other counties whose percentage of state aid would decline this year if the LCI were applied.
Strongly opposing that decision, the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors and the Fairfax County School Board sent a joint letter on January 14 to Governor-Elect Robert McDonnell, asking him to reconsider that decision. The letter states in part:
“This is a basic issue of fairness—localities throughout the Commonwealth shared in the good times and the revenue generated from Northern Virginia during the economic boom. …Yet when economic hardships hit Northern Virginia, the pain is not borne equitably. …At a time when so much attention is focused on the need to turn the struggling economy around, one investment certain to reap benefits for the entire Commonwealth is Northern Virginia’s K-12 educational system, which brings major Fortune 500 companies to our area each year, benefiting us all.”
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Old 01-26-2010, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Wow, thanks for that article. It really does seem unfair and a kick in Northern Virginia's butt.
The Governor is saying that he will stick with the freeze in the LCI. Seriously people, this is wrong! Read Representative Surovell's blog statement on this:

The Dixie Pig: "Fairfax's Own" Proposes to Short NOVA's Schools $144M

Northern VA school districts get the screws when times are good and bad. Email your representatives.
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Old 02-25-2010, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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The Governor is saying that he will stick with the freeze in the LCI. Seriously people, this is wrong! Read Representative Surovell's blog statement on this:

The Dixie Pig: "Fairfax's Own" Proposes to Short NOVA's Schools $144M

Northern VA school districts get the screws when times are good and bad. Email your representatives.
Update: Earlier this month, the Gov. reversed this decision and decided that the LCI will be recalculated, which is a positive for NoVA school districts.
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