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Old 02-12-2010, 12:13 PM
 
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Me and the gang are being docked personal leave for the snow days. It does not seem fair that the snow caused me to loose a day of my vacation. What's everyone else doing? using sick time or vacation?
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Loudoun Cty, Virginia
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My office requires us to charge vacation time as well due to the snow. They claim that they have the parking lots cleared and ready for us, so it's up to us to get here. I don't agree with it either, but not much I can do about it. I'd actually feel better if we were allowed to use sick leave or something too, we stay home due to safety and possible health risks so that would make sense.

I came in everyday but wednesday this week, and ironically our office closed on wed. It was only the second time in 40 years that they've closed the office, so it was a historic event, haha.
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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I'm very lucky that working from home is a viable option. Individual projects sent out emails telling people to work from home if possible, or to use vacation days. (We don't have a difference between vacation/sick/personal days, it's all the same)
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:43 PM
 
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My company never closes for snow. We are a federal contractor and if we don't work billable hours then it would come out of the corporate bottom line. They say the shareholders would not be happy to see a line item like that. It is a business decision. I don't agree with it.

Anyway, I can't work from home due to needing to work on classified equipment.

So, all I can do is try to make up the 2 days I was out (Monday & Wednesday). I may work some this weekend so I don't have to burn 2 vacation days this pay period (which ends a week from today). If I work 8 hours this weekend, and work late a few days next week, I may be able to salvage those two vacation days.

I agree, it stinks. But such is life if you work for a federal contractor - we can't bill the gov't for hours we don't work on the project. It would have to be charged to overhead, and charging overhead is "bad".

There is no such thing as sick leave for us either.

I know awhile back there was some nasty thread on here that several posters made it sound like federal contractors were overpaid, underworked, etc. etc. compared to their federal gov't counterparts. We don't get sick days, we don't get snow days, but we may get paid better, and we get a pension plan (at least at my company, but some others as well). There are pluses and minuses, but many of us would have liked to have not burned vacation time this week, or else have to work weekends/evenings the rest of the pay period to make those 2 days up. It isn't always "the grass is greener on the other side" so to speak. I suspect it kind of evens out, but depends what is important to you in life. In my company we don't get off for President's Day either, by the way!
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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My company is going to virtual work anyway so didn't really care that I worked from home on those days. My co-workers are all over the country and I can VPN and phone in so it's business as usual whereever I am. I can't believe more companies aren't like that around here.

ngadude - you should start looking around. I work for a federal contractor and it's nothing like you describe here. We even have have unlimited sick days. You might want to think about switching to a fixed price contract rather than cost-plus.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:05 PM
 
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My company is going to virtual work anyway so didn't really care that I worked from home on those days. My co-workers are all over the country and I can VPN and phone in so it's business as usual whereever I am. I can't believe more companies aren't like that around here.

ngadude - you should start looking around. I work for a federal contractor and it's nothing like you describe here. We even have have unlimited sick days. You might want to think about switching to a fixed price contract rather than cost-plus.
I like the project I'm working on, there's perks like overseas travel to where the equipment is as well as in Hawaii where it also is at a US Navy base on Oahu (14 trips to Hawaii in the last 9 years for about a month duration each - sometimes even during the winter months!). It isn't as bleak as I paint it. I also have ownership of this project as it is just me and one other person. This is a subproject of a bigger one, and the high up customer determined the contract structure.

Also, my pension is growing, so I have no incentive to leave. Not to mention the company's 401K match is very good in addition to the pension plan that I pay nothing for.

As I said, there's pros and cons to any company. The grass isn't always greener on the other side. To each his own. I could not do my work from home, no way. Much of the equipment is in the back of a Humvee behind several locks. The rest is in a classified lab. No way I could do my job "virtually" as it were.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:15 PM
 
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ngadude - you should start looking around. I work for a federal contractor and it's nothing like you describe here. We even have have unlimited sick days. You might want to think about switching to a fixed price contract rather than cost-plus.
The contract I worked on for 20 years was, at first, cost plus incentive fee and then on the last go round in switched strictly to fixed fee. We suffered more under fixed fee. I guess it all really just depends on how your contract rates are worked out.

I also did not have a pension plan nor did I have unlimited leave; however, I knew other contractors that had been with, say, Lockheed Martin and had great benefits but that were long-timers there. The new employees didn't get that.

Towards the end of my federal contractor tenure, my company started to pay for things like an extra day off here and there and they even added two holidays but we were a very small group and had some good profits over the past few years so the company funneled it back to the employees.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Fed gov worker, so the days are admin leave. I'm not charged.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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usually unless the company itself is closed, you will have to take vacation or PTO time. If the company closes or tells you to stay home, normally that is paid. They are not required to pay you however.
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Old 02-12-2010, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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We closed early Tuesday and all day Wednesday and paid workers for that time. We opened Thursday and all but one employee came in. We set up a babysitting area with movies and some games, since two employees had kids they had to bring along.
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