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Old 03-19-2010, 12:45 PM
 
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The problem is that the higher wages get taxed more. So everyone has a legitimate gripe. the unemployed are obviously hurting, and likewise the underemployed. Then you have the underpaid workers. Then you have the "fat cats" whom everyone else envy's yet also hates. This system of taking from the rich and giving to the poor doesn't work!
On one side, the rich can handle more taken than the poor can.

On the other side, the rich get less service than what they pay for.
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:59 PM
 
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Pay freezes would be easier to accept if the current school board would first cut a lot of the bloat that the system currently has, but they won't.
Has the Fairfax Education Association (teachers' union) put together a list of the bloat and presented it to the School Board and Board of Supervisors with proposals of what to cut? I hope so. I would love to see it printed here.
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Old 03-19-2010, 02:39 PM
 
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On one side, the rich can handle more taken than the poor can.

On the other side, the rich get less service than what they pay for.
Well the problem is that it creates a cut-throat society. When we have more than 50% of the people dragging down the economy then we have a major problem. Most upper class people had to work for their money, so it seems anti-american for the gov't to take that away from them. It's much better to let people donate their money to the charities of their choice.
Poor people need to stop feeling sorry for themselves, and start contributing to society. remember JFK's quote.. "ask not what your country can do for you"???
Politicians today play into our fears about money, and create a class warfare where the rich people are the bad guys. the irony is that those politicians are rich themselves.
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:28 PM
 
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Well the problem is that it creates a cut-throat society. When we have more than 50% of the people dragging down the economy then we have a major problem. Most upper class people had to work for their money, so it seems anti-american for the gov't to take that away from them. It's much better to let people donate their money to the charities of their choice.
I think you described Fairfax County in a nutshell.

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Poor people need to stop feeling sorry for themselves, and start contributing to society. remember JFK's quote.. "ask not what your country can do for you"???
Politicians today play into our fears about money, and create a class warfare where the rich people are the bad guys. the irony is that those politicians are rich themselves.
A lot of "poor people" don't feel sorry or ashamed that they are getting government aid.

Why else would people immigrate or sneak into the US and have many kids immediately even if they are barely making minimum wage and have no health care?

In reality...it's the opposite. It's the lottery.

Look at any DC ghetto and you'll see generations upon generations living in the same projects, and these aren't even immigrants.
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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Wow! What's with all of the teacher-bashing? It's almost as bad as the Fed-bashing! (Ironically a lot of those who bash the Feds work for private-sector government contractors, and then when you dish a bit out towards the contractors in your own defense they can't take it).
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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potus.
Obama--thought that was you! You have time to secretly text comments for city-data while you're in the middle of speaking at GMU today--holy cow, you really are the multi-tasker!!!
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:31 PM
 
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Wow! What's with all of the teacher-bashing? It's almost as bad as the Fed-bashing! (Ironically a lot of those who bash the Feds work for private-sector government contractors, and then when you dish a bit out towards the contractors in your own defense they can't take it).
It's only teacher bashing if the points are incorrect.

Contractors generally do all the work that the feds should be doing. Otherwise, the government wouldn't need to outsource.
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Has the Fairfax Education Association (teachers' union) put together a list of the bloat and presented it to the School Board and Board of Supervisors with proposals of what to cut? I hope so. I would love to see it printed here.
Not that I know of, but The Fairfax County Federation of Teachers (a true "union" and not an association) has put together a list and presented it to both the school board and county board. I have posted it in another thread, but will find it and repost here.
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Obama--thought that was you! You have time to secretly text comments for city-data while you're in the middle of speaking at GMU today--holy cow, you really are the multi-tasker!!!
LOL
He didn't receive my vote.
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Has the Fairfax Education Association (teachers' union) put together a list of the bloat and presented it to the School Board and Board of Supervisors with proposals of what to cut? I hope so. I would love to see it printed here.
Here is a proposed list from not FEA, but FCFT (Fairfax County Federation of Teachers). Comments are welcome.

Fairfax County Public Schools Proposed Budget is Up

Sorry. I couldn't upload the file since I have already posted it on the above thread. It is located on page 4. I hope you can check it out.
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