Munster (Gary, St. John, Holland: violent crime, neighborhoods, schools)

[RegionAire]

"A motivated student at LC will outperform a slacker at MHS any day! It's not like all MHS graduates are successful."

As an MHS slacker, I successfully slept through two years of college based on my "marginally" better-than-LC education. (Digression: Of course that was back in the 80's when political correctness hadn't yet affected the quality of learning). My mid-class ranking certainly did not ensure success, but it sure seems better than a similarly ranked LC graduate.

Simply put, the professionals that live in Munster have higher expectations for their children's educational performance. That's why Munster has always been among the TOP ranked schools in the entire state. As other towns attract more highly compensated professionals (doctors, lawyers, engineers), a similar effect will happen. It's just that Munster has always had that locus of high achievers and probably always will.

I still heartily disagree with both the Gary proximity argument and the shabby housing argument. I'd almost rather have a house that has already had everything repaired than one that will (My new house notwithstanding).

[OPSMAN]

"Simply put, the professionals that live in Munster have higher expectations for their children's educational performance."

RegionAire...that may be the most ignorant sentence I've heard in a long time. With that ridiculous blanket statement (which is nothing more than your narrow-minded opinion), you have alienated all of the other mentioned suburbs as parents that don't care about the educational development of their children as much as the snooty Munster residents. Thank you for proving my point that Munster residents think they're the cream of the crop and everyone else is inferior.

By the way, congratulations on sleeping through school and relying on the "good" name of the Munster school system to carry you through. That's the kind of person I want working for me.

Check back in a few years when Munster had socially and economically declined due to gentrification. South Holland, Calumet City, Lansing, South Hammond, Highland, even Gary....they all USED to be nice as well. Take care....

OPSMAN

[domergurl]

Originally Posted by OPSMAN

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By the way, congratulations on sleeping through school and relying on the "good" name of the Munster school system to carry you through. That's the kind of person I want working for me.

don't get ticked, it's true! Colleges these days assign points to each applicant based on what high school they attend. Hey, I don't like it either.

[skyeINIL]

Originally Posted by OPSMAN

Check back in a few years when Munster had socially and economically declined due to gentrification. South Holland, Calumet City, Lansing, South Hammond, Highland, even Gary....they all USED to be nice as well.

If (and that's a BIG if) that happens to Munster, what towns do you think will suffer right along with it? Dyer, Schereville, and St. John.

Also, South Holland, Lansing, and Highland are still nice towns.

[Capt. Dan]

Originally Posted by skye1974

That seems a bit alarmist (of him, not you) and convenient to me. Crime rising? Let's blame Gary! If City-Data stats are to be believed, Munster has a very low crime rate.

I think we can all agree that Gary, most of it anyway, is now inhabited by "poor" people. Therefore if someone wanted to be a thief, there isnt alot of value left in gary to steal. So, where will the thieves go to ply thier trade? Where the value is of coarse! Munster, Highland,Dyer etc. So it wont suprise me if the crime rate goes up in the Munster area.

[LIS123]

Gary and Munster aren't that close. You still need to go through Griffith and Highland to go from Gary to Munster. Many (if not most) 'nice' neighborhoods are within that distance of 'bad' neighborhoods. I wouldn't let that stop me from Munster, though I would choose other towns at this stage anyway.

[WildWestDude]

Remember also that there is a big difference between the northern parts of Munster along the river and newer areas such as those south of 45th!

How many of you think that Munster will go on the way of Lansing? Is it something inevitable or can it be held back like in some other IL suburbs?

[skyeINIL]

Originally Posted by WildWestDude

Remember also that there is a big difference between the northern parts of Munster along the river and newer areas such as those south of 45th!

How many of you think that Munster will go on the way of Lansing? Is it something inevitable or can it be held back like in some other IL suburbs?

What's "the way of Lansing"?

[WildWestDude]

Originally Posted by skye1974

What's "the way of Lansing"?

go here for more on Lansing:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/chica...own-dumps.html

[skyeINIL]

Originally Posted by WildWestDude

go here for more on Lansing:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/chica...own-dumps.html

I heartily participated in that thread. I know it well. As a current resident of Lansing, I disagreed with the OP and another person who agrees with that assessment. If you read it, you will see that I provided facts and verifiable observations to refute the Lansing detractors.