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Old 02-09-2014, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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In a earlier post I said: "Far more than 20% of the island isn't highly developed. Probably closer to 50%."

When I am wrong - I'm wrong, 74% isn't developed on Oahu! 26% is for urban use and the remaining being rural and agriculture.

ANALYSIS: How Much of Hawai`i is "Concrete"? | Big Island Now
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:08 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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It is like you can't make up your mind - you complain often about the high cost of housing - people can't afford it - but at the same time you want restrictions on growth that will make housing even more expensive likely driving more longtime residents replacing them with people from the mainland with more $$$'s. Hmmm.
I believe its was your town that said "please don't send anymore tourist our way" Wasn't it? So if you want to preserve your way of living then way isnt ok for us older folks to try to preserve our way of life? The difference being between you and me is, by preserving the older way of life your preserving a way of life for future generations and the well being of everyone. The only reason your against what im saying is because it doesn't benefit your personal profit. I don't benefit from my point of view, my only motivation is the love of my home.
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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I don't benefit from my point of view, my only motivation is the love of my home.
You don't even live here. If you loved your "home" so much you'd actually live here. You have no clue what Oahu is like today.
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:26 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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In a earlier post I said: "Far more than 20% of the island isn't highly developed. Probably closer to 50%."

When I am wrong - I'm wrong, 74% isn't developed on Oahu! 26% is for urban use and the remaining being rural and agriculture.

ANALYSIS: How Much of Hawai`i is "Concrete"? | Big Island Now
Once again viper you totaly missed the mark, my point has nothing to do with how much land is highly developed or just developed. The point being any development to develope the land you destroy nature, it doesnt matter if it marked urban, industrial, rural or farmland you destroy the original gorgeous nature. Im just glad that some effort has been made to preserve some of oahu. Because without that i doubt there would be any gorgeous aina left.
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:45 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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You don't even live here. If you loved your "home" so much you'd actually live here. You have no clue what Oahu is like today.
And you have no clue what it means to love the land or even understand what the real Hawai'i is, because if you did it wouldn't be the way it is now. You refuse to learn anything, you won't even accept a compromise, because your way of thinking is always the right way. Your a conqueror viper in the way you think, modern Oahu is an example of this. Instead of accepting what is different and intergrate with it, you force others to change there way of living to fit your personal benefits. There is no compromise, your arguments say that even if it would benefit all. A person doesn't have to live on Oahu to have aloha, and just because someone lives on Oahu doesn't mean they know anything.

Whats even more sad is you keep using the argument that i don't live there currently to discredit me.

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Old 02-09-2014, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Whats even more sad is you keep using the argument that i don't live there currently to discredit me.
Of course.

You live Hawaii via YouTube videos.

I live Hawaii in person every single day. I own homes here. I pay taxes here. I manage people here. I buy things here. I use services here. I have no unrealistic view of what Hawaii is today.
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:59 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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Like whats going on in oahu currently is so unique? Sorry viper other generations dealt with alot of the same issues. Further what does that say about yourself when I live way over here and I have more love for the nature and way of life in oahu then you? Or is it like a locus, nothing is wrong, but when it gets bad I can just goto the next place called paradise?
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Old 02-09-2014, 03:10 PM
 
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when I live way over here and I have more love for the nature and way of life in oahu
Via fantasy and YouTube video.
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Old 02-09-2014, 03:17 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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Of course.

You live Hawaii via YouTube videos.

I live Hawaii in person every single day. I own homes here. I pay taxes here. I manage people here. I buy things here. I use services here. I have no unrealistic view of what Hawaii is today.
Shut up Haole! I was born and lived there alot longer then you! Further im not under the delusion that oahu is the mainland like you. Hell i brought what you said about how "Hawai'i is no different then the mainland" to some locals who have lived in Oahu for 40+ years on another Hawai'i site im a member of, They laughed there butts off, saying heres a person who doesn't know what he is talking about, to say oahu isn't different then the mainland is crazy, we all agree that Oahu is looking more like da mainland everyday, but thats different. Crap viper i even have haole malahini who have lived just as long as you in Oahu saying the same things im saying, but these are people who live in Oahu, not on Oahu.
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Old 02-09-2014, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Only took 49 posts for you to get back to the name calling.......
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