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So back to my question - - Does it sound like a place I would want to live?
$2,700 for a 3/2/2 in Hawaii Kai is cheap. I grew up in Hawaii Kai and have a ton of friends that live there, including that particular area where that house is - Mariner's Valley.
If you're looking for a community feel you'll get it in that area. There is a very large townhouse project directly across the street from Kamilo Iki Park that houses many middle income families (I lived there as an infant until we moved a few blocks down the valley into a SFH). It's popular with middle income families because it has a nice community pool, play ground and large park right across the street. Also, housing in that townhouse project is cheap - cheapest housing you'll find in Hawaii Kai. But that doesn't mean undesirable demographics. Most families there live there as an alternative to sending their kids to private school. Kamiloiki Elementary (where I attended) receives high marks and many families move to that area just so they can afford the best for their children.
The home you're looking at will share the community park with those people that live in that project and others in Mariner's Valley.
That house is going to be blazing hot. No ac + vaulted ceilings + no insulation + limited operable windows = 90-95 degree interior temps during the summer and no I'm not exaggerating. That part of Hawaii Kai is hot, dry and arid (similar climate to Ewa Beach). If your children are asthmatic or are sensitive to particulates in the air, you may want to reconsider that area. I have a family that had to move from a house one block away from the subject house because the vog gets really bad in that particular valley - when the air is still it just lingers.
Other reasons why it's cheap is it's dated and needs serious upgrading. Those cabinets and finishes are original. And it's carpet. It's also considered to be a more remote location in Hawaii Kai. Not as bad as Kalama Valley but it's still a pretty good drive just to pick up milk and bread.
I would have to agree with Viper. It's probably already taken or has a list of people that want it.
$2,700 for a 3/2/2 in Hawaii Kai is cheap. I grew up in Hawaii Kai and have a ton of friends that live there, including that particular area where that house is - Mariner's Valley.
If you're looking for a community feel you'll get it in that area. There is a very large townhouse project directly across the street from Kamilo Iki Park that houses many middle income families (I lived there as an infant until we moved a few blocks down the valley into a SFH). It's popular with middle income families because it has a nice community pool, play ground and large park right across the street. Also, housing in that townhouse project is cheap - cheapest housing you'll find in Hawaii Kai. But that doesn't mean undesirable demographics. Most families there live there as an alternative to sending their kids to private school. Kamiloiki Elementary (where I attended) receives high marks and many families move to that area just so they can afford the best for their children.
The home you're looking at will share the community park with those people that live in that project and others in Mariner's Valley.
That house is going to be blazing hot. No ac + vaulted ceilings + no insulation + limited operable windows = 90-95 degree interior temps during the summer and no I'm not exaggerating. That part of Hawaii Kai is hot, dry and arid (similar climate to Ewa Beach). If your children are asthmatic or are sensitive to particulates in the air, you may want to reconsider that area. I have a family that had to move from a house one block away from the subject house because the vog gets really bad in that particular valley - when the air is still it just lingers.
Other reasons why it's cheap is it's dated and needs serious upgrading. Those cabinets and finishes are original. And it's carpet. It's also considered to be a more remote location in Hawaii Kai. Not as bad as Kalama Valley but it's still a pretty good drive just to pick up milk and bread.
I would have to agree with Viper. It's probably already taken or has a list of people that want it.
I disagree -if it were so desireable price would be higher. You get what you pay for really does work in Real Estate. I do agree , however,its probably the worst in a good area.
Other than Hawaii Kai, you could look at Kaneohe or Kailua. The commute up and over the Pali isn't too bad to get to downtown Honolulu. Manoa or Kaimuki might also be a good choice for a family.
Other than Hawaii Kai, you could look at Kaneohe or Kailua. The commute up and over the Pali isn't too bad to get to downtown Honolulu. Manoa or Kaimuki might also be a good choice for a family.
If they think Hi Kai is expensive....dont even think about Manoa.
$2,700 for a 3/2/2 in Hawaii Kai is cheap. I grew up in Hawaii Kai and have a ton of friends that live there, including that particular area where that house is - Mariner's Valley.
If you're looking for a community feel you'll get it in that area. There is a very large townhouse project directly across the street from Kamilo Iki Park that houses many middle income families (I lived there as an infant until we moved a few blocks down the valley into a SFH). It's popular with middle income families because it has a nice community pool, play ground and large park right across the street. Also, housing in that townhouse project is cheap - cheapest housing you'll find in Hawaii Kai. But that doesn't mean undesirable demographics. Most families there live there as an alternative to sending their kids to private school. Kamiloiki Elementary (where I attended) receives high marks and many families move to that area just so they can afford the best for their children.
The home you're looking at will share the community park with those people that live in that project and others in Mariner's Valley.
That house is going to be blazing hot. No ac + vaulted ceilings + no insulation + limited operable windows = 90-95 degree interior temps during the summer and no I'm not exaggerating. That part of Hawaii Kai is hot, dry and arid (similar climate to Ewa Beach). If your children are asthmatic or are sensitive to particulates in the air, you may want to reconsider that area. I have a family that had to move from a house one block away from the subject house because the vog gets really bad in that particular valley - when the air is still it just lingers.
Other reasons why it's cheap is it's dated and needs serious upgrading. Those cabinets and finishes are original. And it's carpet. It's also considered to be a more remote location in Hawaii Kai. Not as bad as Kalama Valley but it's still a pretty good drive just to pick up milk and bread.
I would have to agree with Viper. It's probably already taken or has a list of people that want it.
Thank you. This is the exact kind of information I'm looking for. Where we live now is humid, so used to that, however we do have central a/c. I've been to various parts of HI and realize it's not common there. That said, 90 degree inside temps sounds brutal.
Location: not sure, but there's a hell of a lot of water around here!
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Why is it undesireable? Hawaii Kai is not Kalihee, or Waimanlo, or Waianae, or Nanakulee................hahahaha! no offense to those who live in the forementioned.
I disagree -if it were so desireable price would be higher. You get what you pay for really does work in Real Estate. I do agree , however,its probably the worst in a good area.
That makes no sense. Many landlords price their property above the market. Many landlords price their property below the market. And you get the average asking rent in the middle of the two - that's "market" rent. Some people get ripped off. Others enjoy great deals. That's just the way the rental market works.
My strategy has always been to rent well-maintained properties below market. I receive a much larger pool of tenants to choose from which ultimately allows me the luxury to go with higher quality tenants. This also usually translates into more appreciative tenants that don't nitpick every single tiny property deficiency. And when a tenant needs to move (family grows, move to mainland, etc) it commonly gets occupied by a family member or friend of that same tenant. There is zero vacancy and often very little effort that goes into addressing new move-ins.
It's a much less stressful way to live life. And it feels good knowing you have happy tenants.
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