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Old 04-13-2016, 03:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I've read a couple of articles about Bill 85, which would treat rideshare app services like taxis, "requiring drivers to use visible meters, install dome lights on the top of the cars and adhere to the pricing structure of taxi companies rather than their suggested in-app fares."

Uber has stated that this would force them out of Hawaii entirely. It seems as though most residents and visitors appreciate having the option to use either service. Personally, I've almost always gotten better service from Uber/Lyft drivers than cabs. On the very rare occasion where I had an issue I've been able to deal with it effectively through customer service.

What I haven't been able to gather from reading the articles is how likely this bill is to pass. I know taxi companies are heavily in support of it. Anyone hearing word on the street as to how legislators are leaning? I think it would be a shame to drive out an innovative service that most people appreciate, and force everyone into an archaic broken system. For whatever it's worth, I added my name to a petition stating as much.
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Old 04-13-2016, 04:05 PM
 
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This is Hawaii. The costlier and less efficient something is the more likely it will prevail. Our lawmakers will never allow anything that can potentially reduce the number of civil servant staff even if it provides society as a whole a better quality of life for less money.
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Old 04-13-2016, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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The bills are all tabled for now. They tried and failed to regulate last year - same this year. They'll probably try again. Unlikely to pass in any form in my opinion it's to heavily entrenched at a local ridership level.
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Old 04-15-2016, 11:40 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The bills are all tabled for now. They tried and failed to regulate last year - same this year. They'll probably try again. Unlikely to pass in any form in my opinion it's to heavily entrenched at a local ridership level.
Well that's good to hear, I hope you are right. I'm hoping to live in Kailua when I move out next year. I know I will want to enjoy dining out in Waikiki. $60-$80 for a cab ride home would be difficult to swallow.
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Getting a uber from Kailua is nearly impossible at the moment - hopefully more drivers will make Kailua a home base. Rarely do I ever find UberX or UberSelect available
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:15 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I've noticed that as well, when I've checked just to test it out. What I do in San Diego is drive to wherever I want to go, then Uber home, and pick up the car the next day. A little extra hassle, but sure better than a DUI!
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Agreed. Checkpoints start in and around Waikiki nearly every single Friday and Saturday about 10 PM
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Old 04-15-2016, 01:51 PM
 
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I've noticed that as well, when I've checked just to test it out. What I do in San Diego is drive to wherever I want to go, then Uber home, and pick up the car the next day. A little extra hassle, but sure better than a DUI!
Cabs are still far superior in this regard. Pony cab offers a service where you can request to have two cab drivers come out in one cab. When they pick you up the second cab driver will drive your car home. This way your car goes home with you with zero risk of a DUI. The cost is only double the normal cab fare.

It's very impractical to leave cars overnight as some places will charge extra parking fees or will even tow. Not to mention the risk of break ins. And good grief the hassle of getting a ride back to your car the next morning with a hangover. No thanks.
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Old 04-15-2016, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Pony cab offers a service where you can request to have two cab drivers come out in one cab. When they pick you up the second cab driver will drive your car home. This way your car goes home with you with zero risk of a DUI. The cost is only double the normal cab fare.

It's very impractical to leave cars overnight as some places will charge extra parking fees or will even tow. Not to mention the risk of break ins.
Well, while I agree driving to Waikiki and leaving your car isn't usually practical (Waikiki Banyan generally has the best overnight rate, although they've raised it lately) you'd have to have really deep pockets to stomach double the taxi fare.

Waikiki to Kailua taxi is going to run about $80 - plus tip, so double will run you $160 or so.....

UberX is going to run about $30 so roundtrip $60

UberSelect will run about $70 - but the tip is included. Even if you have to UberSelect down to Waikiki you can get UberX all in about $100 - get lucky with UberX, and roundtrip will run $60ish

You can get an Uber out of Kailua - you just have to be a bit patient, I've gotten them instantly - to having to wait nearly an hour. If you can plan around that, I'd do Uber both ways unless you are absolutely in a time critical situation.
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Old 04-15-2016, 11:36 PM
 
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Catching a cab or uber from Kailua to town and back is entirely impractical, in my opinion. And I think I speak for about 99.9% of all Oahu residents. You might think it's OK to wait an hour to get picked up and spend $70 to avoid the chance of getting a DUI. But it would be comical to even suggest such a thing to most locals.

My suggestion regarding Pony's unique "DUI avoidance" service was for those that live in or close to town. If you're residing in Kailua, stick to finding a Keoki Kool to take you out in the town (that's old school da kine talk for "designated driver").
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