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Fresh off the press... official tab is now $9.5 billion. With this new adjustment, it will likely be closer to $15 billion once it's all said and done.
Studies say Rail will take 2% of cars off roads. That's 2 out of every 100 cars..........the number are INSANE.
Anyone figure out the annual maintenance? Cost per ride -$10? and it doesn't even go to Waikeekee...............greatest boondoggle. But then again Oahu went for Hillary......................................omg!
Bright side. Hillary wants to raise taxes. In a roundabout way the rail will raise taxes. Hawaiians win!
Busses are $2.50 a trip. The rail will double to triple that expense. Would can afford the rail that would actually use it?
You're assuming that people will pay for the ride on the rail. We have light rail where I live. A large percentage of the light rail riders don't pay, and there is little to no enforcement, so why should people pay? Many low-life's, troublemakers, and criminals ride the rail. It's not very safe to ride the rail at night. The buses still run on the same roads next to the rail, so the rail didn't replace the bus service. The light rail didn't make a dent in reducing the traffic.
You can probably expect the same result in Hawaii. A very expensive boondoggle that won't reduce traffic congestion, and is a waste of the taxpayers money.
If the rail doesn't reduce traffic isn't it still better than not doing anything? Hell I've been to Tokyo and Seoul where they have massive train systems and traffic on the streets can still be pure hell.
You're assuming that people will pay for the ride on the rail. We have light rail where I live. A large percentage of the light rail riders don't pay, and there is little to no enforcement, so why should people pay? Many low-life's, troublemakers, and criminals ride the rail. It's not very safe to ride the rail at night. The buses still run on the same roads next to the rail, so the rail didn't replace the bus service. The light rail didn't make a dent in reducing the traffic.
You can probably expect the same result in Hawaii. A very expensive boondoggle that won't reduce traffic congestion, and is a waste of the taxpayers money.
Lol! And trouble makers, criminals, low lives don't drive cars? Some of the most sophisticated cities in the world have excellent public transportation. NYC, Paris, Tokyo, Mexico City, London. Time for people to grow up and get over their selfish class insecurity.
Lol! And trouble makers, criminals, low lives don't drive cars? Some of the most sophisticated cities in the world have excellent public transportation. NYC, Paris, Tokyo, Mexico City, London. Time for people to grow up and get over their selfish class insecurity.
I will speak from personal experience. I was jumped and robbed in suburban Atlanta, in one of the safer places. Where I was at, the nearest bus stop was was about 1-1.5 miles away. No bus line went where I was robbed. The trouble makers came by car, an old, dented car.
Political payoff ...
Families who live on the west side of Oahu (which is probably the most "affordable" housing on the island, if you can even
call it that... where most "local" families can barely afford...) will not be using the rail. How do you take and pick up your children to and from school and then go catch the rail to get to work?
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Though HART’s latest official cost estimate is “only” $8.6 billion, construction costs are expected to skyrocket to upward of $10.8 billion; local residents will end up paying more than two-thirds of total construction costs; the actual number of good jobs for local residents was a tin percentage of the promised number; and that the impact of rail on traffic congestion will be similarly miniscule.
Had it not been for the media, the public would still be in the dark about the massive cost overruns. According to the Honolulu Authority for Rapid Transportation website, the cost overrun is a myth:
“It’s important to understand that HART’s existing contracts are on budget and we continue to have a healthy contingency fund of more than $500 million. So far, about 60% of HART’s contracts have been awarded. The construction of the first 10 miles of guideway is underway, the Rail Operations Center is about 70% complete, and HART’s fleet of 80 rail cars is under production and the first cars are expected to arrive here in early 2016.”
The kindest word we can think of for that explanation is propaganda."
"City and HART officials now acknowledge that traffic congestion would be “worse in the future with rail than what it is today without rail.” That quote comes from the Final Environmental Impact Statement and a letter from the city’s transportation director."
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