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Old 10-04-2010, 01:41 PM
 
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Post Clyde ohio cancer cluster

October 4, 2010
Today will mark the beginning of the inevitable end to what is left of any semblance of quality of life for this area.

We have had a crisis with not just childhood cancer but with cancer in adults, unusual types of cancer. . . . .but I guess there is more money/people out there with financial backing to propose that a Biomass Gassification Plant be built right within the community. GEE Unkle Dan I thinks that be a great idea . . . . . .the garbage man can burn the trash and take in other trash from other cities and they all will pay us big bucks. . . . .where are the rocket scientists ???? oh maybe I mean a 5th Grader?

Let's forget about the fact that this plant will produce dioxins of which there is NO known safe level of exposure.

Never mind the fact that we have an ongoing cancer crisis which the Ohio EPA has no conclusive results of what may be the cause(s).

Never mind that fact that this gassification plant will produce more toxins to be released in the air and water.

Never mind the fact that the Ohio EPA has no idea if the proposed site is in fact a previous toxic waste dump.

FORGET that numerous children have died.

Forget the exuberant amount of breast cancer in this area and the many adults that have died or are dealing with cancer.

Never mind the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been spent to try to find what is causing the cancer problem in the first place.

State study can't uncover carcinogens in Sandusky County | Sandusky Register

Forget that these types of plants are known to blow up.
That they are most times built on toxic waste dumps and that the fuel they can possibly use for a source to burn will also have toxic air, water and ground byproducts.


1. INCINERATORS: GASSIFICATION, PYROLYSIS or PLASMA are NOT SAFE
As written in the report: "Incinerators Trash Community Health"
Incinerator emission standards, as regulated by the EPA, are not based on what is scientifically safe for public health. As the EPA itself has written, "Since EPA could not clearly define a safe level of exposure to these cancer-causing pollutants, it became almost impossible to issue regulations." Instead the EPA standards ONLY require the emitters to use the best control technologies already demonstrated by industry sources." These standards only regulate a handful of the thousands of known toxins and do not take into account the countless harmful ways that toxins can interact to form more dangerous super-toxic compounds. The assumption of the existence of "safe emission levels" is clearly false.

2. INCINERATOR EMISSIONS ARE NOT ACCURATELY MEASURED
The most dangerous known pollutants: dioxins and mercury are rarely monitored on a continuous accurate basis. Instead of continuous monitoring, incinerators are typically subject to one or two dioxin stack tests per year, each consisting of a six-hour sample. Studies have shown that these tests drastically UNDERESTIMATE emissions, recording as little as 2 % of the actual total.
ALSO the EPA does not effectively regulate toxins in ash and liquids discharged from incinerators or monitore the ultra-fine toxins such as PCB's, dioxins and furans.

3. AIR EMISSION LIMITS NOT ENFORCED
2007, a Federal Judge ruled that the U.S. EPA had been unlawfully re-classifying certain incinerators under less stringent boiler emission limits. The EPA had done this to avoid enforcing more stringent incinerator emission limits. In light of this, communities should question whether they trust the EPA to protect their health and to properly enforce emission limits in their community.

www.zerowarming.org

www.toledoblade.com
search: Clyde Plans to Generate Electricity from Trash

GAIA*:*Index GAIA*:*Index

People Investigating Toxic Sites

YouTube search: Jorge Emmanuel on Pyrolysis and Gasification

Detroit Waste Incinerator: Dirty and Expensive - Trash & Recycling - Ecology Center (http://www.ecocenter.org/recycling/detroit.php#too-close-or-not - broken link)

Gasland: A film by Josh Fox


PEOPLE ARE REQUESTED TO CONTACT THE OHIO EPA AND SAY NO TO THE PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 PERMITS THAT WILL ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF THIS FACILITY.

Contacts at the Ohio EPA:
Phone: 614-373-3127 or 614-644-2160 FAX: 614-3681

Jan Tredway : jan.tredway@epa.state.oh.us
Chris Korleski : chris.korleski@epa.state.oh.us
Darla Peelle : darla.peelle@epa.oh.govdarla.peelle@epa.oh.gov

Clyde City :
Paul H. Fiser, City Manager 419-547-6898 [SIZE=2][/SIZE][SIZE=2]pfiser@clydeohio.org[/SIZE]

Dave Pollick, Sandusky County Health Department
Phone (419) 334-6377
info@sanduskycohd.org

Governor Ted Strickland
:
General Info: (614) 466-3555 Fax: (614) 466-9354

Representative Jeff Wagner: district81@ohr.state.oh.us
Phone: (614) 466-1374 Fax: (614) 719-6981

Ohio Senators
Karen Gillmor :
SD26@senate.state.oh.us Phone: (614) 466-8049
Mark Wagner : Phone: SD02@senate.state.oh.us (614) 466-8060
(Erie, Ottawa County)


Bob Latta 419-668-0206 http://lattaforcongress.com/contact

Dennis Kucinich : Phone (216)228-8850 Fax (216)228-6465

US SENATORS
Sherrod Brown : Senator Sherrod Brown | Senator for Ohio: Contact Senator Brown


George Voinovich
:
Phone: (419) 259-3895 Fax: (419) 259-3899
.: United States Senator George Voinovich :: Contact :. (http://voinovich.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.ContactForm - broken link)

ANY HELP: EMAILS, FAX, PHONES CALLS, BLOG POSTS, ANYTHING WILL BE APPRECIATED BY MOTHER EARTH AND THE FUTURE CHILDREN OF THIS AREA !!!

Last edited by notablonde; 10-04-2010 at 02:56 PM.. Reason: listed wrong contact info
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Old 10-04-2010, 05:06 PM
 
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Contacts at the Ohio EPA:
Phone: 614-373-3127

CORRECT AREA CODE IS 419-373-3127
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Old 12-30-2010, 05:24 PM
 
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I've been reading about the childhood leukemia cluster in Clyde, and the search by health officials for a common link among the affected children. In their search, there is one possibility the investigators have probably not considered: XMRV.

XMRV (xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus) is an INFECTIOUS retrovirus that has been linked to aggressive prostate cancer. It was discovered about five years ago, and is the third known human retrovirus. HIV (causes AIDS) and HTLV (linked to leukemia) are the other two.

XMRV could be the missing common link among the affected children. However, health officials will not test the children for XMRV, because it is so new. Parents will have to arrange the tests themselves. The most reliable media source of information about XMRV is the Wall Street Journal, which has published a series of stories beginning in October, 2009. The Whittemore-Peterson Institute in Reno, Nevada, is another good source of information.

I come from a northern Ohio lymphoma family, and we have XMRV in our family. Flo Henson
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:19 PM
 
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Just read about Clyde, OH. I am shocked and disappointed parents refuse to move out and continue to raise kids. To me, this is a form of child abuse. Unreal how ridiculous people are to ignore that there is a problem here. Hope you clyde residents stop drinking the koolaid and get out! Dont wait for our government to find the problem - they wont! They are the same people who said the OIL from BP is all gone..unreal.
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Flo Henson View Post
I've been reading about the childhood leukemia cluster in Clyde, and the search by health officials for a common link among the affected children. In their search, there is one possibility the investigators have probably not considered: XMRV.

XMRV (xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus) is an INFECTIOUS retrovirus that has been linked to aggressive prostate cancer. It was discovered about five years ago, and is the third known human retrovirus. HIV (causes AIDS) and HTLV (linked to leukemia) are the other two.

XMRV could be the missing common link among the affected children. However, health officials will not test the children for XMRV, because it is so new. Parents will have to arrange the tests themselves. The most reliable media source of information about XMRV is the Wall Street Journal, which has published a series of stories beginning in October, 2009. The Whittemore-Peterson Institute in Reno, Nevada, is another good source of information.

I come from a northern Ohio lymphoma family, and we have XMRV in our family. Flo Henson
Flo,

I just read the Clyde OH story on yahoo. The first thought that came into my head after reading the story was the idea of a DNA fragment. I had forgotten about XMRV, and when I searched for info on Clyde, I was a little less than stunned to read your post.

These mysterious cancer clusters can't just be environmental. I have no purpose here other than to report that I had the same idea. If there is a test for this RV then I would be looking at that right away. Even if it's not XMRV, there might be something else like it.

Good luck to the families involved.
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:18 PM
 
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Couldn't it be genetic related? It seems like this town is extremely small and a lot of people could be related because most people who are born into the town stay there for the rest of their lives. This means that it could be easily passed through nearly the whole town.

Of course it also could easily be a virus. The government needs to give up on searching for environmental causes and start focusing on the genetic/and or viral possibilities.
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Old 01-16-2011, 03:57 PM
JRE
 
Location: California
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I'm investigating the cancer clusters in Sandusky County and have been unable to find the exact location of the former Riley School on County Road 232. Does anyone know the address or cross-streets of the property of old Riley School? Have the school buildings been demolished?
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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Hey there JRE

I checked with a friend and they said:
Go thru Erlin toward 6. When you get to 6 you have gone 100 feet to far. The buildings are on the right and are still being used for something.
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