Ryan Homes incentives (apartment, how much, houses)

[rrjackson]

I do have a Ryan Home, and it was a disaster. Cheese said Ryan Homes was a good builder based on a very small sample of evidence. I know more about Ryan Homes then he ever will, so he doesn't have as much of an informed opinion. I do know for a fact Ryan Homes deletes negative data as standard operating procedure. No good builder needs to do that. Do you want to buy from a builder that hides it's mistakes from any public record? Telling the truth isn't a vendetta, it's just the right thing to do.

To the buyer, this can't be a percentage business. Selling just one seriously defective home, and then refusing to be accountable as a builder can destroy the buyer financially and beyond. Ryan Homes has done this, and they are still willing to do this. There are no laws that stop them from doing so. I've heard so many buyers say after it was too late, I wish I had known.

[htlong]

Originally Posted by cheesehead911

I live in a Ryan home. The Incentives are only offered in certain developments. I live in The Meadows development in Oakwood, we have been there about a year now. They were only offereing incentives if you got certain lots and these lots had no back yard at all. We looked at one of those lots they were offering 10,000 worth of incentives and free brick front. We didn't get one of those lots because we wanted some back yard. Now I beileve they are offering incentives in our develpment, the Savoy at 210 with the morning room included. However this really isn't a discount, because when we bought our house the savoy was 210 but in the winter they raised all the houses starting prices by 10,000 so its really not that good of a deal. Also if you want the incentives you have to use their morgage company and open a bank account with 5th Third (I belive) and your morgage will be withdrawn automatically each month.

As for the building of the house it is solid, we know others who have Ryan built homes they they have held up just fine. They are the number one home builder in Northeast Ohio, they didn't earn that title by building crappy houses.

cheese,
how much do you know about the construction of houses?
ryan will cut any corner it can, use cheap materials and the normal house buyer will look at the house without seeing what was done due to paint and walls covering them up, while in a county in va, the ryan homes used 2x6 for headers. it must have passsed the counties building code but i want 2x10 headers in my house they wont warp and sag ten years down the road, when you cant get your windows to operate smoothly and cant figure out why????
but if your happy and want to fall for the over priced homes with small buying incentives go for it, but not me !

[htlong]

one more thing,
i remember back in the 1970's ryan was chased out of the akron area for building such poorly built houses...my how people forget so soon?????
being the no 1 builder means they build more houses, not better houses!
buyer's beware of ryan ....no kidding

[rrjackson]

Thanks HTlong. That really annoys me when someone spouts off to victims, Ryan Homes is #1 in whatever, like that makes it all well. #1 in what, and what does that really prove? I also said Ryan homes builds houses as an incidental byproduct of a profit scheme, which was interpreted as Ryan builds mostly bad houses. Many U.S. companies work this way, it doesn’t mean they build mostly defective products, unless they manipulate laws with things like Binding arbitration, and thus make it legalized.

The best available statistics would suggest they build 10% to 20 % of their homes with substantial defects. This can be entire subdivisions, (that has happened many times) or some sub divisions that are pretty much just fine to the buyers. What one needs to consider is how they’ve handled the really bad defects with their customer service.

I know first hand. I’ve been threatened by them, told they were a “large well organized company” and they could “destroy me.” That was their entire reply to a home warranty, knowing full well with expert documentation sent to them by certified mail of their builder mistakes that destroyed my home.

If a homebuilder destroyed your home, knew it, and then threatened you to shut up about it as a fix, what would you do? Cower in fear and accept six figure losses? Our should I have an unbiased opinion, and just respect that some cheesehead thinks Ryan Homes is great and go with the flow?

My choice is obvious, and anyone with compassion for ordinary people squashed by a billion dollar company should at least try to understand it.

[htlong]

time to lock and load!!!!

[ColorMe4315]

We have been in our Ryan Home for over 2 years and in our new Dev for nearly 2 1/2 with no problems. We have been following Ryan Homes from three diff states MD/VA & PA for over ten years. We have many friends, family members and church members who have and still currently are Ryan Home owners again with no problems at all.

I am sorry to read about your problems. However, just like cars, no matter how much you paid for it you could get stuck with a lemon.

Originally Posted by rrjackson

Thanks HTlong. That really annoys me when someone spouts off to victims, Ryan Homes is #1 in whatever, like that makes it all well. #1 in what, and what does that really prove? I also said Ryan homes builds houses as an incidental byproduct of a profit scheme, which was interpreted as Ryan builds mostly bad houses. Many U.S. companies work this way, it doesn’t mean they build mostly defective products, unless they manipulate laws with things like Binding arbitration, and thus make it legalized.

The best available statistics would suggest they build 10% to 20 % of their homes with substantial defects. This can be entire subdivisions, (that has happened many times) or some sub divisions that are pretty much just fine to the buyers. What one needs to consider is how they’ve handled the really bad defects with their customer service.

I know first hand. I’ve been threatened by them, told they were a “large well organized company” and they could “destroy me.” That was their entire reply to a home warranty, knowing full well with expert documentation sent to them by certified mail of their builder mistakes that destroyed my home.

If a homebuilder destroyed your home, knew it, and then threatened you to shut up about it as a fix, what would you do? Cower in fear and accept six figure losses? Our should I have an unbiased opinion, and just respect that some cheesehead thinks Ryan Homes is great and go with the flow?

My choice is obvious, and anyone with compassion for ordinary people squashed by a billion dollar company should at least try to understand it.

[htlong]

most owners wont even know about the problems that happen and most problems come years after the house was built...if you are happy with squeaky floors and windows sticking years down the road ,its fine with me but i have watched the total lack of building a good house by ryan over the last 30 years there motto should be puddy and paint! and you will never know!

[gentlearts]

We built one in 1972, and Ryan is still going strong. That house is now on it's 3rd family and still looks nice. They give you a lot of sq ft for the money. If that's what you want, Ryan is fine. If you want luxury and fine detail and individuality then I'd say look elsewhere....It depends upon what stage of life you're in. When I was young with a bunch of kids, I just needed a nice neighborhood and a lot of room to put them in. Today, I would want something different.

[mimert]

You get alot of bang for your buck buying a Ryan. My husband and I just built one a few years back. Am I 100% satisfied, no. But who ever is? Would I do things differently, who wouldn't. Some of the things stated about Ryan Homes and NVR are completly false. Some are true. You do NOT HAVE to use NVR for your loan, though you may receive incentives if you do. You DO NOT have to use only Third Federal. All these are different variables depending on your credit and what you can truley afford on what loan package you will be offered. They go way out of their way to finance buyers which may be why some neighborhoods go downhill so quickly. The homes in those areas are normally in a lower price range in areas and surrounding areas that are not always great.

As far as incentives go, when we bought we got free brick front, some got finished basements, some got morning rooms. Now, those things are not done. They have lowered the price of the homes, mostly because of the housing market, and don't offter incentives.

If you don't like the price of their options, that are very over priced, negotiate. Don't let them think you can't, because you really can. When they are building your home, stay on them like hawks. REALLY DO THIS. Make sure that they make you a satisfied customer. That they fix everything that needs fixed. They have an excuse for everything, don't let them play that game with you. Tell them if you want me to be a happy customer and you want a good evaluation score, fix it and make me happy. Otherwise your bonus will be affected by what I say on your evaluation.

Yes, I speak from experience. Would I do a Ryan Home again? I really can't answer that question honestly right now. Like I said at the top, you can never please 100% of the people 100% of the time. They must be doing something right, they were the only builder making an increase in sales last year in a housing market going down the tubes.

[OH Deb]

I have never lived in a Ryan but have been in them and have many friends that live in them. Personally, I would never buy one. I have also just heard that they are pulling out of many new developments and leaving some customers high and dry.

In my area, Ryan doesn't have a very good reputation for building a good, quality home.