Ryan Homes incentives (Oakwood, Brimfield: prebuilt, homeowners association, mortgage)

[ambrock]

We are thinking of building a Ryan house in Brimfield. We've heard that they willingly give incentives such as free upgrades, finished basements, morning rooms, and lot discounts. If anyone here has bought a Ryan home, could you please post what kind of incentives, if any, they gave you to entice you to purchase.

Also, we'd like to know if you're satisfied with your home and if you've had any problems in the time you've been in it.

Thanks!

[dayton_ohio]

I vaguely recall hearing negative things about Ryan. They are a fairly cheap mass builder, but I can't remember specifics.

We looked at pre-owned Ryan homes in one community. They showed significant wear and tear after about five years (actually, it might have been three years). If possible, you might want to drive around older Ryan communities and see what you think.

[cheesehead911]

I live in a Ryan home. The Incentives are only offered in certain developments. I live in The Meadows development in Oakwood, we have been there about a year now. They were only offereing incentives if you got certain lots and these lots had no back yard at all. We looked at one of those lots they were offering 10,000 worth of incentives and free brick front. We didn't get one of those lots because we wanted some back yard. Now I beileve they are offering incentives in our develpment, the Savoy at 210 with the morning room included. However this really isn't a discount, because when we bought our house the savoy was 210 but in the winter they raised all the houses starting prices by 10,000 so its really not that good of a deal. Also if you want the incentives you have to use their morgage company and open a bank account with 5th Third (I belive) and your morgage will be withdrawn automatically each month.

As for the building of the house it is solid, we know others who have Ryan built homes they they have held up just fine. They are the number one home builder in Northeast Ohio, they didn't earn that title by building crappy houses.

[Lord Bartlett]

get a realtor to negotiate a contract for you. They can get things or prices you can't get otherwise. They cost you nothing. Ryan pays the % the realtor gets.

[rrjackson]

I've heard many complaints about Ryan Homes incentives. Some people really get nailed at closing, as you're required to go with NVR mortgage, who will sell your mortgage after. They often take back whatever incentives they "give" in extra closing fees or by changing loan terms.

As far as looking at the out sides, if a homeowners association contract is tied in, you're not seeing problems. Fees paid by owners insure the houses look fairly okay on the outside, even if the home is abandoned due to defects on the inside. Everyone's maintenance fees in our subdivision are $105.00 per month (this year) but go up every year. It takes about $15,000.00 a month to keep them from turning completely to slums here.

People have to say they're happy with Ryan Homes, otherwise they may threaten to sue you, whether you're happy or not.

[wrightflyer]

We live in a neighborhood with a mix of Ryan and local builder homes. While I have to say that many of the Ryan homes here are ok, they don't always seem to age well. They also tend to look the same. Thus why we went with the local builder. I've been through some all Ryan home neighborhoods with homes in the 300-400's and they are on postage stamp lots and look the same. While the neighborhhod looks wonderful (it's on the city golf course), the place just seems a little creepy, as in Stepford creepy. Otherwise, I think the quality and how they address it depends on how much you pay and where you are building. Each region has different contractors and construction managers, thus homes built in one area may be of better quality than the same model built elsewhere. In terms of problems, I've had neighbors complain of improper installation of drywall, windows, and siding. But we also had problems, so I think what you should ask is, how will Ryan address your problems if they occur? As far as incentives, the other posters have covered the jist of it. Personally, I don't think its worth following the ads. I've heard realtors negotiate for free or reduced options without all the strings attached.

[kikiFL]

I agree with the one poster - they don't age well. Ryan has a way of putting in neighborhood pools which attract people from out of town. Those are the only ones that usually don't know any better than to buy a Ryan.

I would stay clear. It's a buyer's market & there's no need to buy that type of house. I live in a neighborhood across a main street from a Ryan development & they put on mediocre materials. Their houses come out cheaper to build & they pass the "savings" onto you. They nickle & dime you on upgrades. They are also often times prebuilt houses - the walls come on a large truck & are assembled on site. We had one built where they put the wall in upside down & didn't realize the mistake until it was too late.

[htlong]

i worked on a Ryan home once and when one of the carpenters couldn't reach a piece to pound a nail without moving the ladder when i asked him why he didn't place the nail, his comment was hey who care its a Ryan home...make your own decision here!

[rrjackson]

Originally Posted by cheesehead911

As for the building of the house it is solid, we know others who have Ryan built homes they they have held up just fine. They are the number one home builder in Northeast Ohio, they didn't earn that title by building crappy houses.

Sorry but that statement is absolutely false. Quality in American companies is not inherently connected to high sales. Perhaps you didn't need serious customer service, but that doesn't mean those that did saw a good builder, or solid home.

If you really get in a bad situation with Ryan Homes or NVR, most resolutions, if they even bother, include gag orders, or non-disclosure of your problems. You can get on here and say you have proof Ryan Homes is a good builder, but there are an only estimate-able thousands out there who would differ, who can't get on here and do the opposite without risking legal recourse against them for telling the whole truth.

Ryan Homes is good at doing business, no holds barred. Often they build a good home as an incidental byproduct. But if your a victim of them, it doesn't much matter some other people think they're great. I didn't want to lose my life savings to legalized scam artists, and I don't want anyone else to take that gamble. Before you endorse the entire company, you need to actually know both sides of it.

[c dubb]

rrjackson, as an observer, you dont sound to neutral yourself. what cheesehead said was their oppinion. How do you know both sides unless you purchased a ryan home. Although i understand your point, that statement was not completely false. what is false is that ,(as you said) they biuld a good home by an "incidental byproduct". If that were the case and most of their homes were poorly constructed they would be out of bussiness. Sounds like you have a personal vendetta.