Question about Columbus vs. Cincinnati (Cleveland, Elyria: 2009, condos, high crime)

[OHBuckeye]

Originally Posted by The Cactus Leaguer

I agree with the words in the statement but not with the order of emphasis. How's that?

Good enough. I think the order of emphasis was just right - we'll just have to agree to disagree about that.

[twixcookie]

I've lived in Cleveland, Columbus, and Indianapolis.
Columbus has a population increase as a constant, because Ohio State is there, and it is the largest populated university in the country.
I think Ohio cities will loose population, as they have that silly nicotine drug test, on top of the other drug tests, given randomly on the job. I am not for having my body fluids tested, and I don't smoke. And to all of you who rant about how bad smoking is, and this is great that employers can reject hiring smokers, and fire their employees from random tests, just wait...next, it will be something YOU do...such as obesity, caffeine, or alcohol. Those cost employers a lot of money yearly due to insurance costs. With the way this is going, only a bionic man will be employable. What someone does on their OWN time is their business. Employers have the right to dictate no smoking at work, or even in their parking lots, but not at home. I defend someone's right to do in their own home, what they want.
The reason these employers are getting away with this...too many workers and not enough jobs.
All this talk that they care about you and are so health conscious. Balderdash! It is costing them money to run those tests. Which must be a cost savings if they fire an employee who smokes at home.
With a free society, we will have things we don't think are good, but do we really want to mandate everything.
Okay, just my rant, because I love Ohio, and hate to see it digressing to this.

[baskervillen]

Dear Cincinnatian,

My answer to why Cincinnati is soooo unpopular to everyone I know, including myself who grew up there, is it is tooooo racist!!!! It is toooo
anti-gay!!!! It is too narrowminded and not in a good religious sense, just downright meanness. Of all the places I have ever lived, I dislike Cincinnati the most ( I would say hate, but I don't want it on my karma to live there in my next life.)
I lived in Kentucky (Louisville and the surrounding areas) for three years and fell in love with it. I hope to return and retire there soon, after making my money here in Chicago. Ve in Illinois.

[Buckeye 89]

Columbus Vs Cincinnatti. What Place is better? Would it really mean anything if you were to find out. its like lord of the flies or governor of california...does it really mean anything?

i never see Columbus get any media coverage...never heard people talk about how much more better it is than any other ohio city...Both cities are high in crime with the rest of the major cities in ohio..Only diff is Columbus has Ohio State Campus...More jobs because it's you could say a "newer" city...and the most imporant is...Columbus is really diverse and there is really no racial problems...no racist cops running around the streets.

[Stolly enterprises]

Originally Posted by WCRob

Maybe I'm jealous, or maybe I'm just missing something - I don't know. But the population of the Cincinnati metro area is - well, relatively larger than the Columbus metro area - by about 370,000 people. That's a considerable chunk of population I'd say. Not as large a difference as, say, the difference between Cincinnati and Atlanta, certainly - but still, it's not piddly. So my question is, why does Columbus always seem to get more attention than Cincinnati? Why do people think it's such a greater city than Cincinnati? I know the actual city of Columbus itself is larger than Cincinnati proper. But are things in Columbus really that much better? Why is it growing so much more than Cincinnati? What is its allure to people from other states who think about moving to Ohio?

P.S. Please note, I'm not trying to put down Columbus. I just don't understand why certain places such as Indianapolis, Louisville and Columbus seem to get more favorable attention in the national media, while Cincinnati always seems to be the butt of jokes. Even before the riots and crime problems started, people in the country used to make fun of Cincinnati, and it gets old. What do we have to do to change that?

We at Stolly Enterprises belive that Columbus truly is a more powerful city and has quite a large population, However that may just be a result due to the fact that Stolly Enterprises Ltd. calls Columbus Headquarters. We belive that outside of that fact Columbus has nothing more to offer than any other large city in Ohio. The "buzz" about Columbus may be due to the fact that it is the capital of the state. You decide - Stolly Enterprises

[Stolly enterprises]

Columbus and Cincinnati, both large cities with large populations and both with a lagre crime rate. Columbus has a population of 711,470, however this may be due to how far out they consiter "the City". Cincinnati has a population of 331,285, however Stolly Enterprises feals that Cincinnati is not as safe as Columbus due to the fact that it is so close to the Gambling of the Ohio river and northern Kentucky. Both Cities were built to be about the same size it's about were you feal comfortable, You decide - Stolly Enterprises

[blkamericanidiot]

okay guys. Let's leave the stats and all that stuff alone for a second and focus on the reasons why some people like columbus better than cincy. Columbus is appealing to the the type of person who: is gay, enjoys student life, loves to shop, likes to live for cheap, enjoys bar hopping and acting fab, wants to move up the corporate ladder while doing all things mentioned above while raising a family. Columbus is a very VERY diverse city. A person can truly be themselves there. now those who like Cincinnati:Usualy very working class or working there way up, has a certain last name, is white, and artist, plays guitar, dosn't mind the burbs,loves PRO sports, enjoys chili. In my opinon asteticaly cincinnati is a nicer city. it's very "old". i love the hills, love the river and honestly i have met some pretty cool people there. But it has a feeling of lonliness in the air. Everyone has left it. Columbus, altho very flat, is more alive. People smile, there are 8 major colleges and universities in the city proper resulting in more open minded citizens, and there is always somthing to do.

I love "cities with bones" as i call them like pittsburgh, cincy and cleveland. they are the core of american principles and were once major cities. but things change. Columbus is NOT mentioned in anything tho. i will say that. i don't even think anyone knows columbus is the home of ohio state lol.

Columbus is also a major test market city as well. There is a term that says "if it can't make it in columbus it can't make it anywhere" in refrence to the city's snarky attitudes and practices as consumers.

[Jdfess6]

There are MANY problems with Cincinnati. The government of Cincinnati is absolutely ridiculous. I live in Northern Kentucky, right across the river and I have watched as Cincinnati sits on its ass and watches itself decay while NKY grows and grows and grows. CINCINNATI NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING! The city is dying and the its the government to blame mostly. In the early 2000's a company offered Cincinnati to build a large Shopping Mall/Restaurant type thing on the river. It would have a small area on the inside for shopping and restaurants and lots on the outside to walk around and enjoy the river, along with shops and restaurants as well. Cincinnati was offered to build it in Cincinnati and they waited, and waited.... and waited some more. Finally, the company got tired of it and went across the river to Newport and BOOM, now we have Newport on the Levee which is an INCREDIBLE economic booster to the city of Newport and one of the most popular places in the area. Cincinnati could have had that, but they sat on their asses and didnt move on it.

On another hand, I noticed that one of the posters said that it is not very religious or something to that nature. In a way you're right, but in another way you're INCREDIBLY wrong. I am a Roman Catholic and the Cincinnati/NKY area has an INCREDIBLE population of Roman Catholics. NKY has something around 70% of all people are Roman Catholic. There is a Catholic Church everywhere you look and if you can't find a good time for you to go to Mass on Sunday, I'd be surprised. We have one of the most gorgeous Cathedrals i've ever seen (the Cathedral Bassilica of the Assumption) which is right across the River in Covington, easy access from Cincy.

Tell me what you think (my first post on City-Data )

[RockyMtnr]

I think your post is honest, to the point and accurate from your point of view ... which I happen to agree with.
I went to college in Cincy in the late 60's and early 70's - it was a great town! Even then though, Newport KY was neater.
I finally made my way back to live in the Cincy area with my wife in '05. I was horribly disappointed at how things seemed to have gone backwards! Once again, the neatest thing about Cincy was Newport, KY. The Levee is fabulous! The cruise-ships that moved over were a big deal as well. Now, the one thing Cincy is good for, for sure ... we took a dinner cruise one late August evening - and a company had rented the top deck for a party - and arranged a fireworks display from the Cincy side of the river. The paddle-boat, after making the dinner cruise up-river, came back down-river and parked under a bridge for the fireworks - and it was a major display - and all the new, tall, glass buildings in downtown Cincy reflected all those fireworks and the result was absolutely astounding - what a great way to spend an anniversary. I am, however, disappointed that Covington hasn't brought things up-to-snuff either.
The entire Cincy area is heavy Catholic - it was Catholic first, I think ... but it's actually heavy everything - Hebrew, various forms of Christian, Asian, Indian and probably Muslim. It's a real mix and I think they have enough of something for everybody that nobody needs to worry about being totally left out.
Long-live Newport KY - the best part of Cincinnati since the mid-60's!

[Jdfess6]

I agree with what you're saying. But if you think about it, Cincinnati could become a miniature New York City/Jersey City. I mean, if CIncy had not such a dumb government both sides could prosper and be very VERY awesome. They could, liek i said, be a small NYC/Jersey City. Both sides could prosper.