So which city is really the biggest? (Columbus, Cleveland: living, rail)

[chet_kinkaid]

practically the only area growing in the i 75 corridor between toledo and cincy is the west chester area,northern suburbs of cincinnati.have you been to middletown lately?most of the cities and towns along the route are depressed areas,centerville being the nicest area by far.and for those who criticize my grammer..i took 6 years of grammer in high school ,thats more than most here and if a former president can spell it nukular than i can too.

[motorman]

Originally Posted by chet_kinkaid

...and for those who criticize my grammer..i took 6 years of grammer in high school ,thats more than most here and if a former president can spell it nukular than i can too.

Early AM web entrees may not be your forte, so i wouldn't brag about my grammer because thats a problem that will detract from anything else written, including misconceptions about Cin-Day.

[TomJones123]

Originally Posted by chet_kinkaid

i took 6 years of grammer in high school

Wow, what a testimony to failed education.

[cali3448893]

Originally Posted by ohioaninsc

I may have the best perspective of this, as I've lived in each of the 3 Cs...I grew up in Metro Cleveland, went to Ohio State and stayed in Columbus even after graduation for awhile, and when I moved back, it was for a job currently here in Cincinnati.

I think each city is the best at some aspect over the other, and each one has problems...I don't understand why they fight with each other so much though...they should work together much better to bring more prosperity and growth to our state.

So I'll look at several things and rate them.

Weather: Best, Cincy, it's much more mild in winter, and doesn't seem to get as much rain in summer...Columbus in the summer is similar to Cincy, but seems to be colder in winter...they are far better than Cleveland, as the winters up there are terrible, getting upwards of 3 or 4 times the snow that Columbus or Cincy get...I know where my parents live and I grew up, it's typical to get over 100" in a year in the east side....so I rank it 1)Cincinnati 2) Columbus & 3) Cleveland

Geography/Topography: Cincinnati is the best with all the hills overlooking the River and downtown, and the way they radiate out from the city as well...Cleveland is 2nd, as there are some hills to the area, and the lake shore is quite nice...Columbus is too flat and kind of boring in this regard...so I rank it 1)Cincinnati 2) Cleveland & 3)Columbus

Parks: All 3 Cs are blessed with a great park system, and fantastic zoos...Columbus has the #1 rated zoo in the country, Cincy's is top 5, and while Cleveland's isn't as highly ranked, it's still very good...Cleveland has the Emerald Necklace , the metroparks that surround the city, and offer a huge variety of outdoor activities, plus it has the CVNP close by, and some ski areas to take advantage of the Lake Effect Snow in winter...I think Cincinatti has some beautiful parks such as Eden Park, Davou Park (KY side of the river), they both have wonderful views, Alms Park, Winton Woods, Sharon Woods, Miami Whitewater all all great parks here too. Columbus has some good parks as well, and a short drive away (about an hr if I remember right) is the best state park in Ohio, Hocking Hills State Park...I'd rank them 1)Cleveland, 2) Cincinnati, & 3) Columbus

Sports: None of our cities have good professional sports (current Reds fluke season that no one expected aside)...at least Ohio State reps the whole state w/ good football and bball...Cincy's teams are better than Cleveland's, so I rank it 1)Columbus (has the best golf too), 2) Cincinnati, and 3)Cleveland

Culture: Cleveland crushes the rest on this...no other city can match the quality of the museums, the Cleveland Museum of Art, MOCA Cleveland, Great Lakes Science Center, Rock & Roll HOF, Museum of Natural History...and no other city can match the Cleveland Symphany Orchestra and Severance Hall, and none of them can match Playhouse Square and all the wonderful shows that come there...I would say Columbus comes 2nd with COSI, Columbus Museum of Art, Wexner Center for the Arts, and the theaters the city has as well as the CSO....so 1) Cleveland, 2) Columbus, 3) Cincinnati

Transportation: Cleveland rules this as well...they have the best developed Freeway system, and the only mass transit system in the state with Light Rail lines, Commuter Rail Lines, and Street car lines as well as a large bus system...Columbus and Cincy just have buses, and not very good systems at that...Cincinnati's Freeways seem to be clogged more than Columbus so I'll give Columbus the nod over them...so 1)Cleveland, 2) Columbus, 3) Cincinnati

Archeticture: Cincinnati wins here, as the architecture downtown, and in areas like OTR, and Mt Adams is truly unique and quite stylish (even the abandoned buildings in OTR w/ some TLC and some money invested would be beautiful...the ones that have been restored are)...Cleveland comes in 2nd imo as it has more iconic buildings than Columbus has...so 1) Cincinnati, 2) Cleveland, 3) Columbus

Neighborhoods: Cincinnati has the best neighborhoods (Mt Adams, OTR, Hyde Park, Oakley, Columbia Tusculum, Clifton, and more) all great neighborhoods...Columbus comes in 2nd imo, as German Village, Italian Village, Victorian Village, The Short North, University District, and Arena District are great neighborhoods...Cleveland has the best downtown district w/ the Warehouse District, but otherwise, I'd really only say, Little Italy, Tremont, Ohio City, and Shake Square are really cool. 1) Cincinnati, 2) Cleveland, 3) Columbus

Downtown: Cleveland's has the most residents and best high rises...Cincy's seems to be the most lively though...both have a lot of investment going into them, I think Cleveland's has a bit more though so I rate that 1st. Columbus has investment going into it, and seems to be getting better, still is far behind in # of resindents, and they made a mistake not putting the casino down there unlike Cleveland and Cincy. 1) Cleveland, 2) Cincinnati, 3) Columbus

Restaraunts: Cincinnati has more 4 star restaraunts than Cleveland or Columubs combined, so definitely Cincy is best here...we have great steakhouses, Italian Places, Seafood Places, and more...I think Cleveland may have more different ethnic restaraunts though...Columbus has the least variety imo, but it's getting better. 1) Cincinnati, 2) Cleveland, 3) Columbus

Medical Jobs/Healthcare Industry: Cleveland really outshines every other city nationally in this...no other city can boast having 2 National Top 50 hospitals, including the #1 ranked Cleveland Clinic as well as University Hospitals (Cleveland really needs to do better capitalizing off of these resources...Cleveland should lead the world in medical research jobs, medical device manufacturing and anything else to...hopefully the Medical Mart will help with this)...Columbus w/ the top 15 OSU Medical Center, and the wonderful James Cancer Hospital comes in 2nd imo...Cincy has a lot of hospitals, but none of them are near the quality of the aforementioned 3. 1) Cleveland, 2) Columbus, 3) Cincinnati

Overall Economy: Columbus has the best because it has the most recession proof jobs, lots of Gov't jobs, education w/ the Major university plus some smaller ones, and Insurance/Financial...Cincinnati seems to have the most diverse economy...Cleveland while it's unemployment seems to be better than most everywhere else in the state, still hasn't opened up enough into other industries...Cincy recently was listed as one of the best entreprenurial cities in the country...Cleveland believe it or not may be the greenest city with a lot of green initiatives going on there plus it's home to the greenest company in the state, the Great Lakes Brewing Company. (the city should put more windmills along the downtown lake shore and use the winds off the lake to generate more renewable power, help get us off the use of coal.)...Fortune 500 companies in each metro: Cincy (P & G, Kroger Co, Macy's, Great American Insurance, Western & Southern Financial, 5/3rd Bank), Columbus (The Limited, Cardinal Health Systems, Nationwide Insurance, Wendy's, Value City), & Cleveland (Key Bank, Progressive Insurance, Sherwin Williams, American Greetings, & Eaton)...I'd rank them 1) Columbus, 2) Cincinnati, & 3) Cleveland

Lastly, Beer/Alcohol: Cleveland has the Great Lakes Brewing Company which makes my favorite beers, Christmas Ale, Nosferatu, Lake Erie Monster Imperial IPA, and Edmund Fitzgerald Porter, so imo, they are the best. I do like a few of the Moerlein Brews...someone mentioned Hudepohl earlier, that's no longer brewed here so imo, should not be considered a Cincy brew even though it was founded here...Columbus only has an Annheuser Busch Brewery, no good microbreweries at all but has that good vodka...so I'd rank it 1) Cleveland, 2) Cincinnati, & 3) Cleveland


So looking at that list, what city you think is the best just really depends on what things you want in your city...I have no real preference between Cleveland and Cincinnati, but I'd take them over Columbus..C-bus seems too white collar to me, and is more transplants...(almost the same feeling I had when I lived in the Charlotte, NC area)..Columbus has developed in a much more sprawling manner, which I don't like...but I can honestly say, our state has 3 wonderful cities...I just wish they'd all work together more for the good of the state.

Great post you say what cincinnatians want to here and what cleveland people want to here!

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by cali3448893

Great post you say what cincinnatians want to here and what cleveland people want to here!

That's what gets you the furthest on the forum... say what people want to hear about their cities. It's not just an Ohio thing, it's everywhere.

[motorman]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

That's what gets you the furthest on the forum... say what people want to hear about their cities. It's not just an Ohio thing, it's everywhere.

But not so much about Mexico City--or we'd have heard a great deal more about it, right?

[cali3448893]

Originally Posted by motorman

But not so much about Mexico City--or we'd have heard a great deal more about it, right?

lol.....wait i think

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by motorman

But not so much about Mexico City--or we'd have heard a great deal more about it, right?

Why would I talk about Mexico City on this forum? It's a city of 9 million with another 15 million in the metro. It speaks for itself. But if you're really concerned about your personal knowledge of it, you can ask or research yourself.

BTW, I still don't understand why you have to be so nasty all of the time.

[motorman]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

That's what gets you the furthest on the forum... say what people want to hear about their cities. It's not just an Ohio thing, it's everywhere.

Originally Posted by motorman

But not so much about Mexico City--or we'd have heard a great deal more about it, right?

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

Why would I talk about Mexico City on this forum? It's a city of 9 million with another 15 million in the metro. It speaks for itself. But if you're really concerned about your personal knowledge of it, you can ask or research yourself.

BTW, I still don't understand why you have to be so nasty all of the time.

Not so much nasty as curious and concerned... While you now reside in Mexico City, you meanwhile spend an inordinate amount of time reporting on and boosting Columbus, a town that wouldn't even make a good suburb in a city of 9 million with another 15 million in the metro. What's the matter--not enough to do or things to see or people to interact with in your new mega-capital home? Just when are you going to admit to yourself that this constant attention to a city so far away and irrelevant to your present situation is, well...quite odd? What's also odd is that the both of us keep having these little exercises in deja vu, but meanwhile our own enlightenment just keeps eluding us--so I guess I just gotta keep posing these nasty little questions and concerns.

[cali3448893]

Cincinnati freeway lanes are non stop about 4 lanes each direction from when you see sububrs of cincinnati about 40 miles south of the river all the way through until you north of dayton. People work in dayton and live in cincy. Soon i think the two metros are going to combine, the land between the two metros are filling up pretty quick with lots of new development since. cleveland and akron are already together how come they havent been named on metro yet?