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I lived in Oh for 2yrs and got simply got tired of the cold weather etc and moved down south for 6yrs, during which I spent some time in diff. southern states. I weathered Katrina etc. I was very happy to toss away my winter coats. It's been 4mths since I returned to OH. I thought that mild winters = best place to live. I am a cold freak, but hey, the summers down there are scorching - literally, and you don't want to hear my hurricane stories.
I'd rather be in a winter coat and weather a winter storm than live in heat and humidity and weather a hurricane. And for many, many reasons that I will not even try to list here, I am very happy to leave the south. I live in a good neighborhood, I live in a city with nice pple, a diverse city, am here to stay. This is not a perfect city, but the grass is not greener on the other side as it appears to be, or as pple portray it.
I couldn't figure out why someone would be singing Ohio praises of comparison so loudly until I finished your whole post. #1, the person you are chastising states at the end that he is in Cuyahoga county and that maybe his observations were area specific. #2, only someone from Michigan could defend Ohio with a clear conscience. Lastly, I can only speculate by your handle of "bubbagirl" that you are a proud and self-professed redneck, which explains your sunny disposition about people. You, more than likely, only stick with yer kin and yer own kind, so of course, they're wonderful. Just a guess. Sorry, I'm in a real mean an saucy mood tonight because I live in the absolute armpit of Ohio with the dumbest and most white-trashy breed of people I've ever encountered in the 5 states in which I've lived. Those being, OK, TX, MI and OH. There's something to be said for southern hospitality and the stereotype of southerners being dumb is quite the ironic myth. Especially as it's spoken (with bad grammar) by the hillbillies I've met up here. I'm glad you're happy here though. Keep Rockin the Beer Gut Daisy Mae.
Originally Posted by bubbagirl
... but they sometimes forget that what they think is directly related to their attitude.
Ohio has her problems, as all states do, but there are also so many great things about the state. People, mostly, are friendly and genuine (exception given to those that like to ride my bumper on the highway....and yes, I do play the Michigan game of BRAKE CHECK!). The NE are is incredibly beautiful with many outdoor activities and parks are FREE of charge! (not something you find in other states!) The economy is slowly rebuilding itself, and thank goodness it is not completely dependent on manufacturing! Ohio also offers many more opportunity for young people for education and training. Tuition is relatively inexpensive, schools are plentiful. And, school systems are excellent throughout the state - yet, property taxes are, for the most part, lower than some of the neighbors to the north (MI, NY, etc). Income tax is low, there are few hour or more waits at DMV (waited 1 hr 20 mins at MI's secretary of state yesterday.... just to do a 5 min plate renewal...). Weather pretty decent for the midwest atmosphere. You get 4 seasons, the temps stay quite a bit warmer than the neighbors to the north, and humidity levels seem to be lower than that of Michigan - that is a huge difference - and you certainly don't have the bugs and rodents found not too much further south. You have vibrant cities that offer many entertainment options, and you have a beautiful lake. I am looking forward to see how the polution problem gets handled, but overall things seem pretty reasonable.
Being happy where you're at depends on you as a person. If you don't like things, then move by all means... and be merry where you end up. By bashing the entire state on your way out just shows how pathetically bored you are with your own life... I know upon moving, I certainly didn't have time to bash ever little problem with Michigan. I was too busy setting up my new life.
hillbilly doesn't necessarily mean country-livin and whatnot. Hillbilly is a state of mind.
White trashiness. Redneckism. Racism. Poor education. etc. etc. etc.
I live in Ashtabula, also known as Trashtabula and Ashtabama. Nothing BUT HILLBILLIES here.
And, from my perspective, your poor spelling and misuse of the English language is what I would refer to as "hillbilly".
Not sure what wikipedia calls it, but I'm from Oklahoma and consider myself more of an expert as to "what's hillbilly".
Originally Posted by WeSoHood
Peoples perceptions are obviously going to be affected by where they lived in Ohio.. It's funny, I heard the words hillbilly and Ohio in the same sentence and I laugh. I've never met anyone hickish, never been to a farm, never even met someone who was from the country. Northeast Ohio is certainly not hillbilly at all.. not even close. I can probably name 45 states more hillbilly then Ohio.
If this thread would be reasonable, it would make sense if all these haters listed WHERE they lived in Ohio. I suspect there is a trend with the type of neighborhoods/cities they lived.
Northeast Ohio/Cleveland all the way to PA is gray for 9 months. According to statistics, only one other U.S. city has more cloudy days than Cleveland. That is Buffalo, NY. The other "mistake on the lake". Northeast Ohio might as well be in Canada. Except, take away the better educated and friendlier people of Canada. What a **** hole.
But, in fairness................you're right. There are quite different levels of suckiness when comparing northern and southern Ohio. It would be almost like judging L.A.'s weather by what someone said about San Francisco. There's a lot of geography between the two. On the flip side, however, you southern buckeyes are responsible for this state going into the economic toilet moreso than we northeasterners are. You are directly responsible for 8 years of George Bush, who ruined the entire nation. So, give all yer buddies a big redneck/N.A.S.C.A.R. high five.
Originally Posted by aquila
You're seriously mistaken if you think Ohio is gray and in a deep freeze for 8 months out of the year. It's actually the other way around, and even then I would hesitate to say Ohio is in a deep freeze all Winter.....at least not here in SW Ohio it's not. It's rarely gray around here....the sun shines far more than people realize. Hardly ever a stretch of time lasting more than 2 days when we see all clouds. Quite frequently.....too frequently....our Winters are mild around here, with temps reaching into the mid-50s and even the 60s quite often during the Winter. It's mostly rain in our Winters, and if we do get cold and snow, it usually goes away within a week. I personally wish we WOULD get more cold and snow around here. I love Winter, and miss the ones we used to get around SW Ohio. They just don't happen anymore.
Ohio is the land that time forgot and the residents want it to stay that way. Most of Ohio is so backward and uneducated it really feels as though you've stepped into a time machine. The racism and low-brow culture is stifling. I live in the NE sector (close to PA) and I cannot wait to get out of here. The people are the rudest, meanest, nastiest people I have ever encountered anywhere. They are angry all of the time about EVERYTHING, yet they do nothing to change their own realities.
I'm always shocked at the incredible lack of education in this state. The vast majority of the population seem to operate on a 10th grade level, at best. There are a few pockets of educated people but they are few and far between.
The trailer park culture has spilled over into the mainstream (I fear this movement has swept America) and taken over. The loud rusted out pickup trucks and the trashy 1970s and 1980s cars running up and down the road, the pollution, the boarded up down towns, the ATV 3 wheelers on the streets, the run down houses, the crime, bombed out factories and steel mills still standing, and of course the crime and pathetic schools.
Then there is the matter of the confederate flag being flown prominently all over this state (and PA). Ohio is north of the Mason Dixon Line yet the confederate flag is everywhere you look. I've even seen the confederate flag superimposed over the Ohio state flag and the Ohio State University flag.
People in this state know nothing of the history of Ohio as a place where the Underground Railroad and abolitionism was very strong. Ohio was a gateway for freedom. Yet, there is a huge faction in Ohio who want to rewrite history and make Ohio part of the OLD South. The South has moved on and is trying to be progressive. Yet, there are factions in Ohio trying hard to resurrect a bygone era that Ohioans rejected long ago. I was driving in downtown Akron the other day and some joker in a junky pickup truck had a car horn that blared the rebel yell. He was grinning from ear to ear and honking the horn like a kid playing with a toy. Huh? This is 2010. This is not Dixie, yet there you have it.
The people here are just too trashy, backward, ignorant, and STUCK in the past for this state to succeed. Ohio has been losing population at a steady pace for the last couple of decades. The jobs are a big part of it but I believe the biggest reason is the culture of this state which is becoming progressively worse--xenophobia, racism, Nazi reenactors running for office and receiving the backing of sitting Congressmen, rampant corruption, and the confederate flag: no thank you, Ohio. I'm with you original poster. I'm moving in the Spring. Can't wait to get back to civilization.
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