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Old 08-11-2007, 08:39 AM
 
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Hi! We are a family of 5, and we may be needing to relocate around the Youngstown area in the near future. I'm really worried about it. All that I read is how horrible it is, crime, declining economy, etc. But I believer there HAS to be good areas, right? Can you lead me in that direction? Because I have 3 small children, I'd like to feel safe to walk around the block in the evenings and have enough yard for them and our two dogs to run around and play. We are willing to live 20-30 minutes outside of the city, if needed, if homes/yards are cheaper and bigger, safer, etc. Any advice where a family would be happy, would be great. Oh, and if it matters, we are a more liberal-thinking bunch, in case that helps break any ties of where we might fit in better.

Thanks a bunch!
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Old 08-11-2007, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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Hi Materbum! Don't be worried about the Y-town area, there are plenty of great suburbs, small cities and towns surrounding Y-town. Lots of really good schools too. Crime is really only a big problem in the city of Y-town. Some other towns in the area have pockets of crime, such as, Warren and Boardman, Campbell, etc., but we can direct you to the best areas of those cities or to cities or townships w/virtually no crime to be heard of. The Y-town/Warren area does have a declining economy, i'm not going to lie, but it is a great place to raise a family and it has an equally great cost of living. In fact, many people that live in the area commute to either cleveland or pittsburgh (1 hour to each city). I know others that commute to akron (45min). There is also plenty to do nearby, so let us know what you are interested in.

I guess before we can help you we need you to answer a few questions. Where will you be commuting to? What kind of neighborhood do you want (meaning, do you want to live in an urban, suburban or rural area)? Also, what is your price range? I don't know where you are coming from, but you may be shocked by some of the housing prices we have around here. Hopefully, we can provide you w/enough info to make a decision. Good luck!

cort
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:53 PM
 
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Cort

Thanks for the response. To answer your questions, we are open to urban, suburban, or rural, as long as things like museums, libraries, kid museums, etc. aren't too far away. My DH would be working in downtown Youngstown, so that is the center point, if that makes sense. Right now we are in Stow, Ohio. So, he can commute from here for a bit, but we really aren't happy here. The taxes are a bit steep, the neighbors are a bit too uppity , and our house is so small for a family of five, and we can barely afford it.

I'd really like a little older home, with wood floors, 4 bedrooms, nice yard...price range, well, that depends on the final offer from the company and what our house here goes for. I'm thinking I'd like to stay around/under 120,000...doable anywhere?

School options are a big deal to me. I'm interested in options...Montessori, perhaps, or some other alternative school. Excellent public schools would be nice, but I'm afraid that I've lost a lot of faith in that possibility with all the mandated testing (I'm a former public school teacher).

Perhaps the most important thing to us, besides acess to the things listed above, is a liberal mindset amongst the folks. We are a little bit like "hippies" (for lack of a better term) in our thinking and definitely don't fit in the Stow/Munroe Falls/Hudson area.

Does that help with ideas for suggestions?
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Old 08-12-2007, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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Since your husband will be working downtown i would suggest both mahoning and trumbull counties. I live in Trumbull, so i know a lot more about this area. In mahoning i would look into poland, canfield, and boardman. Although, these areas tend to be seen as uppity by outsiders. Also, i'm not sure what poland and canfield have in your price range.

As for Trumbull Co. here are my suggestions:

Champion~somewhat rural, newer subdivisions and older homes w/acreage very close to warren, excellent schools

Bazetta/Cortland~ Bazetta is a lot like Champion, with newer subdivisions and homes w/acreage. Cortland is a small city of about 6800 people. It's a bedroom community w/most homes built after 1960. Most housing in cortland starts out around 130k, but i know of a few older homes (early 1900s) that are for sale right now and they are asking between 80k and 125k. Anyway, cortland has a library, a small downtown, banks, a few restaurants, grocery store, etc. Bazetta and cortland both belong to the Lakeview school district which is also considered excellent. Also located on Mosquito Lake State Park

Howland~township of about 20k, desirable location and schools. More homes in your price range, but most are located in subdivisions that were mostly built after 1960. Howland has it's own library, and plenty of amenities.

Warren~NE Warren is still very nice, the main branch of the public library is here, YMCA, lots of good restaurants, etc........lots of neat old houses that are definitely in your price range, neighborhoods have more of a city feel, most housing was built between 1920-1970, schools on the NE side are more desirable than other parts of the city. Lots of people that don't live in warren think it is crime ridden and has bad schools, this is more the case on the NW, SW, and some parts of the SE side. Although, some parts of the SE side are in the Howland school District, also some areas of the NE side are included in this district.

Niles~lots of older homes in your price range (circa 1880-1970), schools i believe are ok (that is my impression after living there for 6 years), library, lots of shopping, etc, this includes the http://www.eastwoodmall.com/home/index.ch2, Eastwood Field

Girard~a lot like Niles, sorry dont' have much more of an opinion on that

Lordstown~very small town, rural, good schools

Newton Falls~small town w/more of a city feel in some areas, rural feel in others, decent schools

Others that are fine, but i don't have a lot of info on: Vienna, Fowler, Johnson, Mecca, Brookfield, Bristol, West Farmington, Liberty, Southington

Ok, so i think that pretty much covers trumbull Co. Just about all the cities and towns listed above are w/in about a 20 to 30 minute drive to downtown y-town and if you want more specifics i can provide those.

Here are some things to do in Y-town when it comes to museums and the like:

Mill Creek MetroParks

The Butler Institute of American Art ~it's free!

Warren-Trumbull County Public Library

Public Library of Youngstown & Mahoning County

flashIntro Children's Museum of the Valley

:: De Yor Performing Arts Center ::

W.D. Packard Music Hall

The Youngstown Playhouse

Simon Malls | More Choices — Southern Park Mall Information, Southern Park Mall Gift Cards

Chevrolet Centre

The Ice Zone

Ok, i know that's a lot, but hopefully it will help you feel better about moving to the area. Good luck!
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:58 AM
 
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Wow, thanks for all the info, Cort!

I still haven't hit on the spot that looks good to me, but I saw a couple of listings in Liberty that I really liked, even though they were a bit more than we want to spend. Does anyone know much about Liberty?

Also, what about resale values? That is a big fear of mine. We lived in VA where the economy crashed a bit when several factories left, and we lost about $20,000 on the sale of our home to get out of the area. Where is that the LEAST likely to happen in the Y-town area if we had to move again in 3-7 years?

Again, thanks for any and all info!
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Old 08-13-2007, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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I think liberty is a good place to live as long as you aren't too close to Youngstown. There is a lot of shopping there, and i believe they are getting a walmart and home depot. Downtown should be about 10 minutes or so from most of liberty, so that's a plus. I'm not sure about the schools, but i think they got a new high school a few years ago and i know a couple teachers there, they seem to like it. Maybe it can be a good fit for you.

As for resale............here's what i've seen in my area(Cortland/Bazetta)......this is a hobby of mine....just about all houses under 150k are selling and are selling for a least a few thousand more than people paid for them a couple years ago. If you have a home for 200k or more good luck! Most are still getting more than they paid, but i know of a couple instances where people bought for around 300k 2 to 5 years ago (they paid too much)and after a year or two on the market they took a loss of 10k- 30k.

This is just my opinion, but you should be fine when it comes to your price range. Good luck!

Here's a good website for looking up homes:

Welcome!: Eaton Group, Inc. GMAC Real Estate or Howard Hanna Real Estate


If you want to look at Sales info for certain areas, this is my favorite site!

Trumbull County Auditor

You can input certain address or streets or look at sales over a certain period of time, from a couple days or going back 10 or 20 years.

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Old 08-13-2007, 11:26 AM
 
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Materbum,
You got some good info on Trumbull County, so I'll try to give you some info for Mahoning County (Youngstown & Suburbs). I don't mean to sound negative, but in your case, I'd probably write off the entire city limits. Housing values are declining or stagnant in many areas and I wouldn't call any part of the city extremely safe. The north side of the city does have a more liberal mindset (many YSU profs live there) and beautiful, cheap houses in decent areas, but the bad areas are literally two or three blocks away.

Liberty Township, which is directly north of the city in Trumbull County has some very nice areas and seems like it would fit your criteria. I'd stay farther from Gypsy Lane rather than closer. It's also a somewhat diverse community.

In Mahoning County, the largest suburbs are Boardman (to the south on OH-7) and Austintown (to the west on Mahoning Av). I'm from Boardman, so naturally I would recommend it over Austintown. Both have older homes in nice, quiet neighborhoods, cookie cutter developments from the 50s, and new developments with houses in the 200s-300s. Both school districts are good and downtown Ytown is only 15 minutes or so away. My neighborhood in Boardman is called Ridgewood Estates and it is a couple miles south of the Ytown city limits. Most of the houses were built in the 40s and they are still kept up very nicely. The nieghborhood is very quiet and safe, with lots and lots of kids. They have block parties, neighborhood garage sales, strawberry festivals, etc... We bought our house for 100,000 three years ago and after replacing the roof and windows and other minor repairs, I'm thinking we could get somewhere around 130,000-140,000 for it. My neighborhood is close to several area libraries and the museums in Downtown Ytown are only 10-15 minutes away.

As far as the rest of Mahoning County goes, Canfield and Poland are nice little towns, with great schools. There is more money there and you get less house for your money than in Boardman or Austintown. I would agree with previous posts that say the people there are more "uppity". But that is compared with the rest of the Mahoning Valley and not with other areas.

The townships and little towns in the southern part of Mahoning County have good schools in a rural setting. I'm not sure about housing prices there, but I think they may be higher than areas like Boardman or Austintown.

I would personally avoid Campbell and Struthers. Some parts of Campbell are very inner-city-like. Struthers has some nice areas and some not so nice areas.

Hope this helped...

Good luck to you!
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:21 PM
 
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I can't believe how nice folks are on here, and helpful! Thanks again! Boardman sounds wonderful...lots of kids and block parties...I didn't know that kind of thing still existed!

DH clarified for me that his job would actually be a little north of downtown (just off of Belmont, nort of 80). Would that make Boardman too far? And how do I find the 40's developments on searches? The realtor.com search I did seemed to list newer, more expensive houses in Boardman.

About Liberty being "diverse"...in a good, accepting way, or a bad, politically correct way (attitudes there, not yours)
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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Sounds like DH job would be in Liberty then. That area is really close to giant eagle, holiday inn metroplex, etc. Also, Vienna Township is very close to this area. Anyway, i'm guessing boardman might be a 20 minute drive, but it maybe less. I'm sure boardmanite would know better...............let's wait and see!
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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OH yeah, and i wouldn't use realtor.com, they rarely show all the listings in an area and they don't show the inside pics like the local realtor sites do (these sites do show other companies listings, as well). Check out the sites i posted before if you want a bigger selection w/more pics.
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