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Old 07-27-2011, 09:27 PM
 
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Ohio leaking jobs again | The Columbus Dispatch


Maybe when this guy said he was the jobs governor we should've asked him to clarify that. I didn't realize he meant "Ohio jobs going to other states governor".

It looks like his radical agenda is really paying off for Ohio families.
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Old 07-28-2011, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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While I agree with you about Kasich, that news story is really no reason to LOL, is it?
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Old 07-28-2011, 05:53 AM
 
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I can only get so many strings of bad news and disappointments before I have to find new ways of coping. It's either laugh at the insanity of it all (a 'jobs candidate' making ohio 'more friendly to business' by screwing its residents and then still losing a ton of jobs), or cry.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:20 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Why not give him time? many still tell us that Obama the disaster has not had enough time and he has been in control for more then 2 years.

With that said, give him time, he has only been in office a few months and like most Obama supporters would say, the job losses was because the previous person who was totally worthless.
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Old 07-28-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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Obama has much less of an impact on Ohio's economy than Ohio's Governor. Obama was handed an economic disaster which will go down in history as the worst recession in 70 years and TWO unbudgeted wars of opportunity. This Governor's problems pale in comparison to what Obama was handed. Kasich inherited a state with a relatively stable state ledger. The big issue: Jobs. He could have ridden the recession out by suspending the elitist tax-cuts the way Strickland did and concentrated entirely on job creation (like Strickland did). Instead, his first major point of order was to push SB5 through. SB5 is nothing more than a juvenile vendetta and an attempt by the GOP to stick it to their political nemeses. It has nothing to do with saving money for John Q. Taxpayer. It has everything to do with trying to break the backs of unions in the state and, therefore, a significant contributor to their opponents. Kasich is all about power and control. He couldn't care less about all of the peons who put him in office. His lack of anything significant on the jobs front should be a glaring indication of that.

Btw, all things considered, Obama is doing as well as can be expected. Unemployment is now nearly 2% lower than its peak (which occured shortly after he took office) and most major markets have stabilized. The Dow is up close to 80%. S&P and Nasdaq are also up roughly in proportion to the Dow. Considering that the Bush Administration et al drove the economy off of a cliff, expecting an instant and bountiful turnaround would be a bit ignorant.

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Old 07-28-2011, 09:25 AM
 
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I reject the notion that politicians can "create" jobs. They can only create an environment that is conducive to "job creation".

This can only be accomplished by getting the government out of the way and letting individuals make decisions. I'm not very convinced that either party quite understands this concept.
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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That's splitting hairs, but I don't disagree. Although, fostering the creation of jobs is just as important as the actual "creation."

Whether you like it or not, some representative of the people at large has to be "in the way" in certain respects. Otherwise, say hello to another banana republic. What the typical politician seems to not understand is that this is their primary objective -- the will of the people. Rather, many of them seem to take up for the will of the few that they feel will butter their bread for them when it's all over.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:47 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Obama has much less of an impact on Ohio's economy than Ohio's Governor. Obama was handed an economic disaster which will go down in history as the worst recession in 70 years and TWO unbudgeted wars of opportunity. This Governor's problems pale in comparison to what Obama was handed. Kasich inherited a state with a relatively stable state ledger. The big issue: Jobs. He could have ridden the recession out by suspending the elitist tax-cuts the way Strickland did and concentrated entirely on job creation (like Strickland did). Instead, his first major point of order was to push SB5 through. SB5 is nothing more than a juvenile vendetta and an attempt by the GOP to stick it to their political nemeses. It has nothing to do with saving money for John Q. Taxpayer. It has everything to do with trying to break the backs of unions in the state and, therefore, a significant contributor to their opponents. Kasich is all about power and control. He couldn't care less about all of the peons who put him in office. His lack of anything significant on the jobs front should be a glaring indication of that.

Btw, all things considered, Obama is doing as well as can be expected. Unemployment is now nearly 2% lower than its peak (which occured shortly after he took office) and most major markets have stabilized. The Dow is up close to 80%. S&P and Nasdaq are also up roughly in proportion to the Dow. Considering that the Bush Administration et al drove the economy off of a cliff, expecting an instant and bountiful turnaround would be a bit ignorant.

Today, 2011 is far worse then it was in 2008 by a long shot.

We are in a recession right now but no one has the guts to call it that.

He was not handed anything. The economy was just fine until Nancy and Harry took over in 2007 and decided to spend us into a mess.

After 2 1/2 years and 800 billion dollars handed to him he has FAILED miserably and has made thing WORSE then at any time under Bush.

Bush had 54 consecutive months of job growth, Obama, well, he has had only one or two months of job growth and negative all the other months.

You cannot tell people to give Obama more time and not apply the same to Kasich.

Obamas decisions has hurt many states job markets including Ohio.

If you want Obama to have more time ( even though he was handed 800 billion and promised he assembled the greatest team of advisers ever to fix things - what a scam job that was ) then give Kasich more time.

Kasich was handed a mess from the previous loser who destroyed Ohio very quickly and killed jobs like poison.

Forgot to mention that 12 factories in my home town closed completely down on Obamas watch. 11 were before Kasich took office by the way and the 12th one made the decision to close back in December before Kasich took office.

Thanks liberals for the shovel ready idea of everyone being on unemployment in Ohio.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:48 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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I reject the notion that politicians can "create" jobs. They can only create an environment that is conducive to "job creation".

This can only be accomplished by getting the government out of the way and letting individuals make decisions. I'm not very convinced that either party quite understands this concept.

Businesses are scared to expand or spend money with Obama sitting there licking his chops waiting to steal money from them with higher or new taxes and or penalties.
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Today, 2011 is far worse then it was in 2008 by a long shot.

We are in a recession right now but no one has the guts to call it that.

He was not handed anything. The economy was just fine until Nancy and Harry took over in 2007 and decided to spend us into a mess.

After 2 1/2 years and 800 billion dollars handed to him he has FAILED miserably and has made thing WORSE then at any time under Bush.

Bush had 54 consecutive months of job growth, Obama, well, he has had only one or two months of job growth and negative all the other months.

You cannot tell people to give Obama more time and not apply the same to Kasich.

Obamas decisions has hurt many states job markets including Ohio.

If you want Obama to have more time ( even though he was handed 800 billion and promised he assembled the greatest team of advisers ever to fix things - what a scam job that was ) then give Kasich more time.

Kasich was handed a mess from the previous loser who destroyed Ohio very quickly and killed jobs like poison.

Forgot to mention that 12 factories in my home town closed completely down on Obamas watch. 11 were before Kasich took office by the way and the 12th one made the decision to close back in December before Kasich took office.

Thanks liberals for the shovel ready idea of everyone being on unemployment in Ohio.
Your revisionist history only flies with people who don't actually know history. Obama can be criticized for many things, but he absolutely did not create the recession, nor was it the work of Democrats alone. It was years in the making over the direction of both parties. Republicans pushed for bad policy just as much and were in control for most of the last decade.
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