Surprisingly, of Ohio's 3 C's, Columbus actually has the most poverty

[Cle440]

I have seen a couple bad areas of Columbus but in Cleveland I was surrounded by ghetto for miles in some places. I have been on Cleveland ave. and Livingston in Columbus it wasnt that nice in those areas. What is the worst part of Columbus anyway?

[Buckeye 89]

cleveland ave and livingston are two major roads in columbus...you can be on livingston by bexely in real rich neighborhoods...or into poverty stickin areas...same with cleveland ave, you was on borderline areas..but you cant say which part of columbus is worse...because all sides of town has its share..last year Eastside of the city held the most murders...this year it will prolly be northside..Cleveland DOES have more hoods,boarded up houses and what not...Everybody thinks Nati and the Land are so much worse..But Columbus has just as much poverty...Just as much crime...just as much murder than the two...Had more homicides than nati last year...people just dont see it

[Cle440]

People don't see it in Columbus because its the only area thats actually growing in Ohio and its where all the government is. The avg Household income in Columbus is $40,000 dollars. The avg household income in Cleveland is only $25,000, you cant tell me thats not a big difference in poverty. I don't know how bad Columbus is doing this year but Cleveland already has 91 murders. I like both of the cities though and Cincinnati too. They just need to learn how to fix their problems.

[streetcreed]

THere is reasons, people
When columbus annexed it annexed TOWNSHIPS that had NOTHING On them

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Columbus developed the townships and built a lot of AFFORDABLE appartments.

These apartments were orinally serving mostly european whites or African Americans. Then columbus' economy continued to grow and the annexaction took up most of Franklin County.

With that comes IMMIGRATION. (LOTS of affordable apartments + a good economy = immigration (usually people living near or at the poverty line)

Thus, today Franklin county, is a place of VERY mixed incomes. A lot of immigration has occured into Franklin county, but also a lot of high end housing has been built, and middle class housing. Therefore, the immpression that the areas annexed by Columbus are suburban in makeup is false. They may look suburban, but the make up (economically and racially) is VERY urban. (for nearly all 220 sq. miles of columbus) which makes up most of Franklin County.


Also, just because Franklin County is (about 16 percent) poverty, doesn't mean it is not better off than the county around Cleveland. Because you have to take into account what makes up the other 84 percent. Columbus' non poverty group is very well off, and there's a healthy, growing middle class (white collar) economy in columbus.

Columbus and Franklin county may have some poverty, but there's a big difference in WHO is in poverty. Poverty of american citizens who lost jobs, or have been here for years (face it there's way way more of this in cleveland metro), can look very different than Columbus' immigrant poverty, or the poverty Franklin county has with the growing Mexican populations or the Somalli populations or Indian.
I hope that helps everyone.

[OHBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Cle440

People don't see it in Columbus because its the only area thats actually growing in Ohio

That's true if you only consider the city propers or the primary counties, but if you consider the entire metro areas, Cincy is growing too. The Cincy metro's population increased 4.7% from 2000-2006; the Columbus metro's increased 7.0%; the Cleveland metro's decreased 1.6%.

The avg Household income in Columbus is $40,000 dollars. The avg household income in Cleveland is only $25,000, you cant tell me thats not a big difference in poverty.

But again, if you consider the entire counties instead of just the city propers, the differences are not as big (best of all would probably be to look at the entire metro areas, but I wasn't able to find that data for 2006). Here are the 2006 median household incomes:

Franklin - $45,803
Hamilton - $44,652
Cuyahoga - $41,522.

Now, here are the 2006 mean household incomes:

Hamilton - $65,801
Franklin - $61,395
Cuyahoga - $58,283.

Finally, here are the 2006 per capita incomes:

Hamilton - $27,213
Franklin - $25,566
Cuyahoga - $24,669.

Hamilton County, Ohio - Median Income in the Past 12 Months (In 2006 Inflation-Adjusted Dollars)
Hamilton County, Ohio - Mean Income in the Past 12 Months (In 2006 Inflation-Adjusted Dollars)
Franklin County, Ohio - Median Income in the Past 12 Months (In 2006 Inflation-Adjusted Dollars)
Franklin County, Ohio - Mean Income in the Past 12 Months (In 2006 Inflation-Adjusted Dollars)
Cuyahoga County, Ohio - Median Income in the Past 12 Months (In 2006 Inflation-Adjusted Dollars)
Cuyahoga County, Ohio - Mean Income in the Past 12 Months (In 2006 Inflation-Adjusted Dollars)