Did Barack Obama Save Ohio? (Columbus, Cleveland: insurance, unemployment rate, income)

[Dumbdowndemocrats]

I think we have gotten a bit off subject.....

[ohioaninsc]

Obama saved Ohio's auto industry, no question about it...Lordstown and Toledo kept plants that would have closed and now they are growing in employment...Kasich has sucked as governor...he gave tax breaks to company's to stay in Ohio, not companies to move into this state from elsewhere...he cut funding to our local governments forcing them to lay off workers and raise local taxes and fees..

[abr7rmj]

President Obama definitely saved the auto industry in Ohio, which is the primary reason he will win the state in November and, by extension, win re-election to the White House.

John Kasich has been nothing short of a debacle in Columbus, as evidenced by his hilarious beating in the SB5 vote. He'll be shooed out of office rather easily in 2014, I'd expect, regardless who he runs against. He's really despised by a large portion of this state, from Toledo to Cleveland to Cincinnati and everywhere in between.

[Dumbdowndemocrats]

...Kasich has sucked as governor...he gave tax breaks to company's to stay in Ohio, not companies to move into this state from elsewhere...

Isn't that what Obama said some time ago that he saved existing jobs but since his name has a capital D beside it he gets a pass? OBAMA SUXS.....SO DOES JOE...REMEMBER OBAMA HAS A BIG STICK

[woxyroxme]

Originally Posted by hensleya1

In theory, roads do pay for themselves via fuel taxes. Now, you could fairly say that fuel tax revenue hasn't kept up with the cost of maintenance and construction of new roads. And I would support bringing Federal gas taxes in line with expenditures, even if it involves raising them. Raise them so that you can 1) afford all ongoing maintenance without dipping into the general fund, and 2) be able to fund capital improvements such as addition of more lanes, new bridges, etc.

I would only support a gas tax increase with the guarantee that the money is spent on roads. I don't want my tax dollars going to subsidize mass transit. If you want mass transit, do it by raising a tax/levy/fee for that specific purpose.

Fuel tax revenue is 4X the amount spent on roads.

Of each gallon of gas purchased 2 or 3 cents of profit go to the oil companies while 40 to 60 cents go to taxes depending on what state.

Oil companies should increase their markup, fuel taxes should be cut, and subsidies to oil companies should be eliminated. That won't ever happen because that would cause the politicians in both parties to lose a little power.

[ohioaninsc]

Originally Posted by Dumbdowndemocrats

FORD did not take a government bailout like the rest of those overpaid whinners....

They did under President Bush...remember, he too sent billions to the auto companies to retool...Ford did a better job using that money and working with their union to get through the financial crisis...but don't make it out to be like they never took any government money either.

Lordstown GM and Toledo Jeep plants are major beneficiaries the President's auto rescue...without it, thousands of jobs at those 2 plants would not be here, and thousands more through the supply chain as well.

[GraniteStater]

It appears that Delaware county north of Columbus is performing the best with the highest percentage of new job growth and population growth overall since 2000.

[ram2]

Originally Posted by Dumbdowndemocrats

FORD did not take a government bailout like the rest of those overpaid whinners....

Ford (along with GM and Chrysler) have gotten tax breaks from local and state governments for decades. Toledo gave Chrysler huge tax breaks to keep the new Jeep plant in Toledo 10? years ago.

The former governor of Ohio, James Rhodes, gave huge incentives to Honda to lure the company to Marysville.

[ram2]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

It appears that Delaware county north of Columbus is performing the best with the highest percentage of new job growth and population growth overall since 2000.

What kind of jobs are growing - minimum wage jobs, 6-figure jobs, etc?

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Dumbdowndemocrats

I'am also for expanded rail service and agree whole heartedly but your math of 17 million dollars a year maintainance costs are a bit to low.The NS railroad will spend over a billion dollars for maintainance this year and here is a little breakdown of the costs...A mile of railroad track has about 3200 ties and has 700 to 900 tons of ballast not to mention the rail,spikes,creepers and plates...a typical gang has between 37 to 45 men and machines laborers make like $20.00 an hour with benefits.They also have super surfacing gangs which have more men and machines Super T&S Gang number 8 can replace 600 to 650 crossties an hour when I worked on the track we maybe got 800 to 1000 ties a day!

Then factor in fuel costs,meals,equipment not to mention maintainace of structures,signals,switches,passenger cars and locomotives with even more employees it is not like a model railroad you need ridership to keep it going and maintain a level of a higher mainline standards.

Here is a link www.nscorp.com/nscorphtml/bizns/bzns0311/MarApr11_web.pdf

It also stated with the Republican House in Congress [2010 election] that the railroad felt better about not having to deal with new harsher regulations that would of hurt their bottom line which is stated in this link.

The $17 million was a quoted figured for maintenance costs for the 3-C project. I didn't make it up.