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Old 11-24-2012, 11:00 AM
 
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I was trying to get medical care for an uninsured relative (it's not time for an emergency room yet), I was offering cash upfront, cash after, cash in any way possible. Not a single beatch would take $. All doctors have are dollar signs instead of their eyes. All they want is an insurance they can milk for X thousands of dollars if an opportunity would present itself. Even if you pay cash now, they doubt they can milk you for as much $ as they can milk an insurance, therefore they put you in the NO service pile, nothing personal just business, go crawl elsewhere and die.

Whatever you say about Obamacare, it simply cannot be worse than inhuman national shame we have now.

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Old 11-25-2012, 04:06 PM
 
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I see the cons on here conveniently didn't address all the good things that Obamacare has done...I feel its evil to put profits over people...if I'm a business owner, to have the brightest and best workers, I'd pay the premium to provide healthcare for all and take less profits...People have to come first, and business owners should put their employees over the almighty dollar...if they don't, well their pure evil in my book...Greed is a terrible terrible thing.
That shows that you are not a business owner. Do you actually think that the profit per employee in most small companies is enough to pay for healthcare?

The high profit business already pays for benefits if the employees are valuable and not easy to replace.

I know a person with 4 fast food places. 250+ employees. Do you think he makes enough profit to cover all of those people? I bet he has less than 4 places in less than 18 months.

Obama wanted a legacy when he could have taken things one step at a time and improved the healthcare situation for millions. Just something as simple as buying health insurance across state lines would get as many as 10,000,000 more people insured. Others would have the same insurance at a lower cost and some would have better for the same cost.

Did you ever bother to read the Republican plan on GOP.gov ? It was up for years. Covered pre-existing conditions immediately. It only said that you must have been insured when you got the condition. Otherwise it would be like trying to buy house insurance when the firetrucks are already on the way.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:41 PM
 
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I was trying to get medical care for an uninsured relative (it's not time for an emergency room yet), I was offering cash upfront, cash after, cash in any way possible. Not a single beatch would take $. All doctors have are dollar signs instead of their eyes. All they want is an insurance they can milk for X thousands of dollars if an opportunity would present itself. Even if you pay cash now, they doubt they can milk you for as much $ as they can milk an insurance, therefore they put you in the NO service pile, nothing personal just business, go crawl elsewhere and die.

Whatever you say about Obamacare, it simply cannot be worse than inhuman national shame we have now.
Curious, why didn't your relative have health insurance? Not poor enough for Medicaid or was it his/her's choice?
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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People have to come first, and business owners should put their employees over the almighty dollar...if they don't, well their pure evil in my book...Greed is a terrible terrible thing.
Actually profit has to come first or there will be no employees.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Curious, why didn't your relative have health insurance? Not poor enough for Medicaid or was it his/her's choice?
Medicaid isn't always easy to qualify for, and individual health insurance is awfully expensive. So, many who "choose" not to have health insurance actually have no choice. If they pay insurance premiums, they have little to nothing left for food, shelter and transportation.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:20 PM
 
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Medicaid isn't always easy to qualify for, and individual health insurance is awfully expensive. So, many who "choose" not to have health insurance actually have no choice. If they pay insurance premiums, they have little to nothing left for food, shelter and transportation.

Boy, I can get an individual high deductible individual plan from the blues for about $600/month. I would think that if $600/month uses up the food, shelter and transportation budget then you surely would qualify for medicaid... Just saying.

By the way, the ACA is not going to help much in this situation. This person if currently not qualifying for Medicaid is going to get a modest subsidy at best on significantly more costly insurance. The only difference is he/she will be forced to buy it. Also that food, shelter and transportation ain't going to get cheaper.

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Old 11-26-2012, 06:14 AM
 
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Boy, I can get an individual high deductible individual plan from the blues for about $600/month. I would think that if $600/month uses up the food, shelter and transportation budget then you surely would qualify for medicaid... Just saying.

By the way, the ACA is not going to help much in this situation. This person if currently not qualifying for Medicaid is going to get a modest subsidy at best on significantly more costly insurance. The only difference is he/she will be forced to buy it. Also that food, shelter and transportation ain't going to get cheaper.
Mea Culpa. Indiana has very low Medicaid eligibility income requirements.
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