Some Ohio info you may find interesting... (Columbus, Cleveland: employment, to buy)

[paintballer1708]

^ I say the same thing sometimes. Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, New York, and Illinois dont experience the bitter cold winters that other states get. Like Minnesota, Wisconsin, and North Dakota, which at times seem to get unbareable winters.

[thisisme101]

TO ONEWAYOUT:

LOL,LOL,LOL, THAT **** HAD ME CRACKING UP IM FROM YOUNGSTOWN AND THATS THE THE TRUTH!!! ANYONE WHO DISAGREES, AINT FROM HERE!!!

i THOUGHT YOU WERE LEAVING oHIo !?!

[OneWayOut]

Originally Posted by thisisme101

TO ONEWAYOUT:

LOL,LOL,LOL, THAT **** HAD ME CRACKING UP IM FROM YOUNGSTOWN AND THATS THE THE TRUTH!!! ANYONE WHO DISAGREES, AINT FROM HERE!!!

i THOUGHT YOU WERE LEAVING oHIo !?!

Haha, isnt it?


I am leaving Ohio. Just a matter of where now. I have narrowed it down to Phoenix and Dallas. Will be visiting both again in the coming weeks for a final decision. Cant wait to move!!!!!

[Need_affordable_home]

Originally Posted by OneWayOut

Haha, isnt it?


I am leaving Ohio. Just a matter of where now. I have narrowed it down to Phoenix and Dallas. Will be visiting both again in the coming weeks for a final decision. Cant wait to move!!!!!

Sorry to hear you werent happy with OH. I might move in! They have one of the best house prices, much cheaper than Dallas!

[paintballer1708]

^ I just think Youngstown is not a great city. Ohio offers so much more than most other states. Cleveland, Columbus, Akron, Canton, Cincinnati, and some smaller counties just outside the cities metros offer a lot, as well as great living standards and very good affordability. When i travel and see the problems other states face im very glad to be living in Ohio.

[Need_affordable_home]

Howcome houses are so affordable in OH and not in most other states? I understand states like CA, HI, NY, FL, NJ are more "desirable" but what makes OH so affordable?

[grammy164]

Originally Posted by htlong

when it is overcast i say its a ohio day!

LOL I always say that here in Florida too!

[OneWayOut]

Originally Posted by Need_affordable_home

Howcome houses are so affordable in OH and not in most other states? I understand states like CA, HI, NY, FL, NJ are more "desirable" but what makes OH so affordable?

It seems housing prices here in OH are at both ends of the spectrum.

I will use Toledo as an example. It is definitely different in other parts of Ohio I would imagine.

As far as Toledo is concerned, here is what is happening from what I have seen. The housing market here is slow. The job market is poor to very poor. It takes a long time to sell a house here, and has for some time. The statistics I got from my realtor on my area were appalling. Something like an average of 13 months to sell a home. For Phoenix, average was like 11 days. It took me more than a year to finally sell my house. Still, developers here are building like crazy.

The homes in the big developments are being sold mostly to dual-income families, making about 30,000/year each. Most homes being sold to these people are $275,000 and above. Along with the gigantic house payment, the SUV payment, and the credit cards, people here seem to become mired in debt to their eyeballs, living paycheck to paycheck, and barely making it. Everyone is moving to the suburbs, out of Toledo, and becoming house poor. That further drives the prices down in Toledo and other areas. This is why you can buy a huge home in Toledo for $100,000.

I have researched home sales in other states, such as CA, AZ, CT, GA, and their selling rates are so much better than those here it is not comparable. I found out that in Phoenix, homes are selling faster than they can build them, or sell them for that matter. They say if you are searching for a home, and you find one you like, you better make an offer that day or it will be sold out from under you.

Supply and demand dictates it. Where there are good jobs, good economy, and people coming in, home sales are swift, and the prices are driven up.

So, the general economy, desirability, job market, and area generally dictates what homes will be worth, and how fast their value will rise.

Originally Posted by htlong

when it is overcast i say its a ohio day!

Could not be more right today! It is 43, raining, and windy, and it ain't supposed to stop for 3 more days!!!

[Need_affordable_home]

Originally Posted by OneWayOut

It seems housing prices here in OH are at both ends of the spectrum.

I will use Toledo as an example. It is definitely different in other parts of Ohio I would imagine.

As far as Toledo is concerned, here is what is happening from what I have seen. The housing market here is slow. The job market is poor to very poor. It takes a long time to sell a house here, and has for some time. The statistics I got from my realtor on my area were appalling. Something like an average of 13 months to sell a home. For Phoenix, average was like 11 days. It took me more than a year to finally sell my house. Still, developers here are building like crazy.

The homes in the big developments are being sold mostly to dual-income families, making about 30,000/year each. Most homes being sold to these people are $275,000 and above. Along with the gigantic house payment, the SUV payment, and the credit cards, people here seem to become mired in debt to their eyeballs, living paycheck to paycheck, and barely making it. Everyone is moving to the suburbs, out of Toledo, and becoming house poor. That further drives the prices down in Toledo and other areas. This is why you can buy a huge home in Toledo for $100,000.

I have researched home sales in other states, such as CA, AZ, CT, GA, and their selling rates are so much better than those here it is not comparable. I found out that in Phoenix, homes are selling faster than they can build them, or sell them for that matter. They say if you are searching for a home, and you find one you like, you better make an offer that day or it will be sold out from under you.

Supply and demand dictates it. Where there are good jobs, good economy, and people coming in, home sales are swift, and the prices are driven up.

So, the general economy, desirability, job market, and area generally dictates what homes will be worth, and how fast their value will rise.



Could not be more right today! It is 43, raining, and windy, and it ain't supposed to stop for 3 more days!!!

Im checking Toledo, OH. Ugh the crime is twice national average! Not happy with high crime! Its also located in north Ohio next to a great lake(think lots of snow!) Theres much better parts of OH for the same price. I can get a cheap house in southeast OH with pratically zero crime and mild winters. If you have been in Toledo, can you tell me how good and safe its there? Is there alot of shopping and entertainment? How bad are the winters?

Wow they have some really nice houses for $500k to $1m, most in Ottawa hills! I checked the $100k houses and no way am I paying that much! They all are tiny, 900-1400 square feet and the cheapest house starts at $5k and theres tons of houses for $20k, $30k, $40k that are as big and nice as those $100k houses. If they are all in a bad neighboorhood/area then I just arent interested in Toledo when theres better areas of OH with no bad neighboors in the vinicity. STEUBENVILLE area has tons of inexpensive houses and im sure the crime is very low in most areas. Id rather live in a small town with low crime than in a city with high crime, safety comes first!

[OneWayOut]

Originally Posted by Need_affordable_home

Im checking Toledo, OH. Ugh the crime is twice national average! Not happy with high crime! Its also located in north Ohio next to a great lake(think lots of snow!) Theres much better parts of OH for the same price. I can get a cheap house in southeast OH with pratically zero crime and mild winters. If you have been in Toledo, can you tell me how good and safe its there? Is there alot of shopping and entertainment? How bad are the winters?

Wow they have some really nice houses for $500k to $1m, most in Ottawa hills! I checked the $100k houses and no way am I paying that much! They all are tiny, 900-1400 square feet and the cheapest house starts at $5k and theres tons of houses for $20k, $30k, $40k that are as big and nice as those $100k houses. If they are all in a bad neighboorhood/area then I just arent interested in Toledo when theres better areas of OH with no bad neighboors in the vinicity. STEUBENVILLE area has tons of inexpensive houses and im sure the crime is very low in most areas. Id rather live in a small town with low crime than in a city with high crime, safety comes first!

I have lived in Toledo for the last 3 years. Most neighboorhoods where those houses for $20K - $60K are very questionable, and usually in high-crime areas. To get a home in a decent neighboorhood for 100K or less you would generally have to go to an outlying town, like Swanton, Woodville, Rossford or Northwood. Ottawa Hills is the small "rich neighboorhood" in west-central Toledo and is sourrounded by some questionable areas. Sylvania is also a decent area for crime, but the home prices are high.

As far as shopping, it is very typical around here. There are all the usual chain stores. There are 3 malls in town, Levis Commons in Perrysburg, which is an upscale, high priced shopping center, Southwyck Mall in south Toledo, which is barely still open and only has a few stores left. They are in fact talking about bull dozing that one. There is also Westfield shoppingtown in north-central Toledo, which is the largest one, and a decent mall. Everything else is strip malls and box stores, with the regular chains-- Home Depot, Lowe's, Meijer's, Best Buy, Circuit City, etc...

Entertainment? Restaurants, sportsbars, and more sportsbars. Sports and sportsbars are the main activity here. There is also 5/3 Field in Toledo for baseball, and a huge restaurant district downtown, and spread throuought the rest of the area. This area has to have more sportsbars and restaurants than any other place in the country. In my own personal opinion, there is really nothing here that I would consider a unique or memorable activity. Most of the other activities are very family-oriented, so if you are single you wont have much choice other than the bars and clubs. If you are into outdoors, there is not much here for that other than the typical parks and recreation areas.

Weather? Winters are pretty bad-- not snow wise. We do not get any lake-effect snow like Cleveland or north east Ohio because we are on the western side of the lake. The last 3 winters here we did not have much snow, but rather freezing temps, like highs in the 10's thru much of January. Winter lasts about 7 months, then the other 5 months range from perfect weather to oppressive humidity. We have about 73 sunny days per year, and 185 cloudy days. The rest are partly cloudy. We have had a very wet year this year too. In fact, it has been raining for two days now and is not forecast to stop until Saturday.

I do not recommend Toledo personally, poor weather, poor job market, higher crime, and not much to do for a single person if your life does not revolve around drinking and sports. If you have a family, and roots here, you will do much better. Frankly, those who call this area "little Detroit" are just about spot-on. There are definitely better parts of Ohio to live in.

I am moving to either Phoenix or Dallas in the next 6 months. Cannot wait.