Should Cincinnati Secede from Ohio? (Columbus, Cleveland: school, college, closing)

[cincyUK]

Originally Posted by RockyMtnr

Now, I'm a fan of Cincinnati - especially the Cincinnati of 1969/70/71 - coming from Columbus, it was quite the international type of town. It was definitely one of three "cool" places in the country then, outside of Ft. Lauderdale (those 3 "cool" places were NYC, SF and Cin'ti ... and sometimes Philly). Last I saw of it though, it had lost it's edge - seemed just like anyplace else ... which was real disappointing - but I'd still vote for secession ... except for the "hanging chad" thing going on back there would negate my vote fer sure.
Thanks for the help Miami! Apologies to Cantonites and Akronites and the rest of them Pennsylvanians!

Cincinnati was an "international" town? HAHAHAHA... i'm born and bread in the river valley, but that's news to me! I think you might be thinking of the early 1800's.

I think you are missing the point, which might be that Ohio should kick Cincy out because it is not as cool as the rest of th state (if being progressive/northern culturally is "cool" these days, which it is made out to be by most pop culture). The suggestion was never that the Nati sucede because its "too cool"... because even I admit that "cool" is not a word to describe it.

How could Cleveland NOT be considered to be within NE Ohio? What else is up there?

[MiamiU08]

Originally Posted by cincyUK

How could Cleveland NOT be considered to be within NE Ohio? What else is up there?

To be fair, if you have not actually heard Cleveland referred to as NE Ohio, and go purely based on a map, you could confuse it with North Central. If you divide the state into 3 columns of ~70 miles each, Cleveland just falls into the central one (by about 5 miles). As for the "what else is up there?" question... LOTS. Myriad colleges/universities, The Pro Football Hall of Fame, beaches, metroparks... This article tells a lot. There are 3.5 million people in NE Ohio who are not in Cleveland - that's over 30% of the Ohio population!!

[boardmanite]

Since we're discussing the regions of Ohio, where is it exactly that the people say "uh-HI-uh" instead of "o-HI-o"? I've lived in Ohio for 3 years and have never heard that legendary pronunciation.

[Ohiogirl81]

Boardmanite, I'd hear it occasionally when I lived in SW Ohio.

The worst offender, to me anyway, was Don Wayne, longtime news anchor for WHIO-TV in Dayton. Every time he said "Uhi-uh" or Cincinnat-uh" I wanted to throw the TV through the window! Shouldn't he have known better? Argh. LOL

[LancasterNative]

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81

Boardmanite, I'd hear it occasionally when I lived in SW Ohio.

The worst offender, to me anyway, was Don Wayne, longtime news anchor for WHIO-TV in Dayton. Every time he said "Uhi-uh" or Cincinnat-uh" I wanted to throw the TV through the window! Shouldn't he have known better? Argh. LOL

Ah personally thank it's rathuh chahrming when they cawl it "Uhi-uh" and "Cincinnat-uh"

Sawrta lahk some Show-Me State residents cawl their home "Missour-uh"! It just saounds nahce...

[MiamiU08]

Generally it is any area that is a good distance from the major cities. The rural areas have more of a drawl in their speech patterns. I pride myself on a fairly non-regional speech pattern, but after living in the Dayton/Cincinnati area for 4 years, I sometimes have to stop myself and correct an "Uh-hi-uh" or a Cincinnati "o" sound, and my dad has called me out on it a few times ("Son, we have GOT to get you out of southern O-hi-O...").

[streetcreed]

Originally Posted by cincyUK

I think you are missing the point, which might be that Ohio should kick Cincy out because it is not as cool as the rest of th state (if being progressive/northern culturally is "cool" these days, which it is made out to be by most pop culture). The suggestion was never that the Nati sucede because its "too cool"... because even I admit that "cool" is not a word to describe it.

How could Cleveland NOT be considered to be within NE Ohio? What else is up there?

I agree. That is how i understand this post. We are saying Cincinnati should be kicked out for not being cool, meaning hip/progressive, which is very "popular" right now (with young professionals, internationally minded folk.)

[LancasterNative]

Originally Posted by tallylady46

He said the people from southern Ohio were made fun of because of their accents...

Your husband is right on! I can personally, firsthand, verify that this is still true—at least as recently as I was there in college.

Cleveland was the first place anyone ever told me I talk with an accent. Even professors took a condescending attitude of amusement at my small-town roots, "hillbilly" enunciation, and "reactionary, ultraconservative" attitudes.

It hurt a little at first...but I've loooooooong since come to wear it all with tremendous pride! Being considered uncouth by snooty northerners is truly a badge of honor

[boardmanite]

Originally Posted by LancasterNative

Cleveland was the first place anyone ever told me I talk with an accent.

People from Cleveland have a funny accent. They all call me "Taaaaaaam" instead of "Tom". I can't take anyone seriously when they sound so nasal...

[MiamiU08]

Originally Posted by boardmanite

People from Cleveland have a funny accent. They all call me "Taaaaaaam" instead of "Tom". I can't take anyone seriously when they sound so nasal...

I think you may be confusing Cleveland with Michigan... Clevelanders do have an admittedly nasal "a," but Tom is not the kind of sound a Clevelander would butcher. You would notice it on the word "aunt" or "have" or "mad," where it differs from the duller "aeh" sound that is common in the Midwest. Putting a nasal "a" on "ah" sounds is more prevalent in Michigan, Upstate NY, and SE Canadian dialects, where the names Ian and Anne are nearly indistinguishable. If someone in the area uses that kind of accent, I would bet dollars to cents that they are not native.