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Old 09-13-2014, 08:43 PM
 
Location: NY-> AZ-> NC->PA->Clayton, NC
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@OHKID

Thanks so much for all that detail, and additional areas for us to look at when we visit. I'll be checking all those areas.
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Old 09-14-2014, 07:40 AM
 
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^Awesome! If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask. There's a lot we can at least help clear up virtually so you can use your time better when you get here.

Hope you like it! Troy itself is kind of a regional "tourist" destination, if you will, so for your $100k you might like it the best. That one house I posted for $105k in particular is a steal, if I had the money and wasn't tied down by school I'd buy it myself haha. Otherwise, Xenia is a very nice place, and there could be a variety of reasons why you'd like it more (proximity to Yellow Springs, closer to shopping, a little bit closer to the 3 major airports, etc.). Otherwise, the other options probably are not as good.

Regardless, best of luck!
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Old 09-15-2014, 11:21 PM
 
Location: NY-> AZ-> NC->PA->Clayton, NC
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Jane, I think overall Joe From Dayton probably has/will give you the best advice anyone here can. So I will try to offer a different perspective, but I will also try to use this criteria you mentioned earlier:
Here's the communities
Troy:
424 E Canal St, Troy, OH 45373 is For Sale - Zillow
947 E Main St, Troy, OH 45373 is For Sale - Zillow
114 S Monroe St, Troy, OH 45373 is For Sale - Zillow
I checked these out. They're all near each other, between what seems to be an active railroad (noise--like train whistles, at night?? ) and the river (possible flooding issues??). Most shopping seems to be in Dayton, which I read is about a 45 minute drive to the mall (?). If that's correct, Troy's too far.

I saw houses for sale starting at $5,000 in Troy. The homes for $5,000 look just as nice as the homes for $100,000. What's the deal with that?

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Troy is 20 minutes to the Dayton airport (direct flights to Newark, LaGuardia, and JFK, if I remember correctly), and about an hour to Columbus' airport. Overall the tenor is conservative, but in town the spectrum is more mixed. The entire town is very walkable, and there's a beautiful bike trail that runs right by the river. This is the gym: http://fitnessinstituteoftroy.com/ and there's a couple yoga studios, here's one: Yellow Tree Yoga . Downside is the lack of university access.
Thanks for this info. I need to see how long it takes to get to a decent shopping area and malls. City-data crime stats are a bit upsetting, there are crimes occurring in Troy that aren't in the other towns you have mentioned in this post (or not nearly as many).

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I think I listed some other options earlier, but if you still have safety as a primary concern, Troy, Xenia, Milford, Lebanon, Germantown and Miamisburg would probably be your best options. Troy in particular would make the most sense, but Xenia has an advantage over Troy with its proximity to a number of colleges and universities in the area. Downside of Xenia is its downtown is not as nice, and in general it is poorer (not like really poor, but Troy is kinda middle to upper-middle class while most of the upper middle class near Xenia live in neighboring Beavercreek). Germantown is probably the most beautiful, and definitely the most historic, but it is more isolated. Miamisburg is a good combo of all the factors you list, but it doesn't meet certain criteria as well as other places. Milford and Lebanon are the same way.
Otherwise, best of luck!
I checked all the towns you mentioned above, a couple of them seem nearer shopping/fitness, Xenia has the nearby colleges. There was 1 or 2 towns that were near Cincinnati, but we haven't really researched that town. According to govt stats, it has a higher risk for flooding, but I read that I75 between Piqua and Troy flooded last year, and also flooded homes around that area. Maybe those homes in Troy are so affordable due to flooding issues?

Thanks so much for all this information. It's helped us get a better feel for the area.
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:35 AM
 
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I checked these out. They're all near each other, between what seems to be an active railroad (noise--like train whistles, at night?? ) and the river (possible flooding issues??). Most shopping seems to be in Dayton, which I read is about a 45 minute drive to the mall (?). If that's correct, Troy's too far.

I saw houses for sale starting at $5,000 in Troy. The homes for $5,000 look just as nice as the homes for $100,000. What's the deal with that?



Thanks for this info. I need to see how long it takes to get to a decent shopping area and malls. City-data crime stats are a bit upsetting, there are crimes occurring in Troy that aren't in the other towns you have mentioned in this post (or not nearly as many).



I checked all the towns you mentioned above, a couple of them seem nearer shopping/fitness, Xenia has the nearby colleges. There was 1 or 2 towns that were near Cincinnati, but we haven't really researched that town. According to govt stats, it has a higher risk for flooding, but I read that I75 between Piqua and Troy flooded last year, and also flooded homes around that area. Maybe those homes in Troy are so affordable due to flooding issues?

Thanks so much for all this information. It's helped us get a better feel for the area.
Sure, good questions. Thanks for asking!

Of the three houses posted, two are within a few blocks of the rail line through town. It is active, and a train runs on it probably about twice a day. I could not find a schedule for when trains generally run, but City Hall should know. Contact them to find out via a Facebook message: https://www.facebook.com/CityofTroyOhio

Troy is about 40 minutes away from a major "mall" area (Dayton or Fairfield Commons malls), 35 minutes if traffic is cooperative through downtown Dayton. A smaller mall is available in Piqua, with JCP, Sears, and Elder-Beerman as anchors. Between Troy and Piqua though, most big-box stores you could ever need are within 10-15 minutes. And Troy has a number of boutique shops that would mimic what you find at the mall, including independent bookstores, coffee and tea shops, women's fashion, etc. Best part is all of that would be walking distance from your house, unlike a mall.

Crime is a non-issue in Troy. There's a certain amount of crime inherent in any location, but Troy is not a high-crime place. Feel free to contact the Troy PD for some better info: Police Department | Troy, OH - Official Website

Flooding - Troy and a number of other places throughout the northern Dayton area just experienced a 1000-year rain event, where 5+ inches of rain fell within a 2-3 hour span. That caused flooding in outlying areas, but not in town. Why? Because of the Miami Conservancy district dams. https://www.miamiconservancy.org/about/history.asp
These five dams were built after the great flood of 1913, a massive flood which cost over 300 lives and was on-par to Hurricane Katrina for damage done. Immediately after it happened, the industrial titans of the region devised the flood protection plan, and built 5 large dams on the Miami River to protect the Dayton region from any more flooding. Later, the TVA modeled their efforts after what we did in Dayton, and to this day the system is used and updated to reflect current flood patterns. So flooding is a non-issue.

Lastly, any houses listed at $5,000 would be the starting price for an auction. It's rare to see a house listed in Troy city limits selling for less than $70k. Most houses sell for $100,000+.


If you have any other questions, please ask! I highly encourage you to come to Troy to get a feel for what it is like here. If you are trying to maximize what you can get for your $100k, I cannot think of anywhere better, but for certain criteria, places like Xenia might be better alternatives.
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Old 09-18-2014, 09:08 PM
 
Location: NY-> AZ-> NC->PA->Clayton, NC
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Sure, good questions. Thanks for asking!

Of the three houses posted, two are within a few blocks of the rail line through town. It is active, and a train runs on it probably about twice a day. I could not find a schedule for when trains generally run, but City Hall should know. Contact them to find out via a Facebook message: https://www.facebook.com/CityofTroyOhio

Troy is about 40 minutes away from a major "mall" area (Dayton or Fairfield Commons malls), 35 minutes if traffic is cooperative through downtown Dayton. A smaller mall is available in Piqua, with JCP, Sears, and Elder-Beerman as anchors. Between Troy and Piqua though, most big-box stores you could ever need are within 10-15 minutes. And Troy has a number of boutique shops that would mimic what you find at the mall, including independent bookstores, coffee and tea shops, women's fashion, etc. Best part is all of that would be walking distance from your house, unlike a mall.

Crime is a non-issue in Troy. There's a certain amount of crime inherent in any location, but Troy is not a high-crime place. Feel free to contact the Troy PD for some better info: Police Department | Troy, OH - Official Website

Flooding - Troy and a number of other places throughout the northern Dayton area just experienced a 1000-year rain event, where 5+ inches of rain fell within a 2-3 hour span. That caused flooding in outlying areas, but not in town. Why? Because of the Miami Conservancy district dams. https://www.miamiconservancy.org/about/history.asp
These five dams were built after the great flood of 1913, a massive flood which cost over 300 lives and was on-par to Hurricane Katrina for damage done. Immediately after it happened, the industrial titans of the region devised the flood protection plan, and built 5 large dams on the Miami River to protect the Dayton region from any more flooding. Later, the TVA modeled their efforts after what we did in Dayton, and to this day the system is used and updated to reflect current flood patterns. So flooding is a non-issue.

Lastly, any houses listed at $5,000 would be the starting price for an auction. It's rare to see a house listed in Troy city limits selling for less than $70k. Most houses sell for $100,000+.


If you have any other questions, please ask! I highly encourage you to come to Troy to get a feel for what it is like here. If you are trying to maximize what you can get for your $100k, I cannot think of anywhere better, but for certain criteria, places like Xenia might be better alternatives.
Wow! What a wealth of information. Thank you so much for taking time out to write this for us. We experienced a 100-yr flood here in 2011, we were stuck in our house at the top of the hill for about 10 days, flooding around the bottom of the hill.

Thanks again
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Old 09-19-2014, 02:57 AM
 
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The topic of this thread is why are there so many houses for sale in Ohio. I'd love to get back to that topic, if possible. I've enjoyed learning about Ohio and the Rust Belt, what Cleveland has been doing to revitalize. I wonder if Dayton or Cincinnati have any revitalization plans they've put into practice? We've narrowed our search to SW Ohio at this point, so I guess I can post in a couple of sub-forums now.

Uh, where is the evidence of this claim, exactly? Do you have a citation of authority for your basic premise, i.e. that there are more homes for sale here, in Ohio, as opposed to, for example, Pennsylvania?

The best starting point is a correct premise. Let's see the origin for that premise.
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Old 09-21-2014, 01:28 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Since when is domestic migration the only metric used to define the pattern?

People also need to understand that OH is already densely populated in relation to the other states (7th in overall population, 10th in density). 1% growth in OH would be close to 11% growth in a state like Montana. Tbh, the only "growth" OH really needs or should want is in the area of higher educated/skilled, solid wage earners. I'm all for the domestic trash running down to the southwest under the false premise that it's the land of milk and honey. Good riddance.


LOL! I agree! "Land of milk and honey". The history of the South is steeped in blood and tears.

I love Ohio's strong abolitionist history, and focus on education. We have some of the best colleges and universities in the country. Scenic rural towns and an abundance of museums devoted to everything from art, football, cultural history, and perhaps most famously, Rock n Roll.

There are diverse political beliefs, and while churches of every stripe are available, there is no pressure to attend. We have no "dry counties" in Ohio (none that I know of) and there are many ways and places to have a good time - casinos, good restaurants, wineries and craft breweries.
People is Ohio like to have fun.

Yes salaries are somewhat lower than in NY. To give an example, an RN with a BSN might make $65,000 in metro NY/NJ. However, his house payment on a modest three bedroom home would be about $2,500. Then there are property taxes that would average any where from $6000 to 15,000 per year.
In Ohio, the same RN might earn $ 50,000 a year. With a house payment of under $1000 and taxes from $1000 to $3000 - per year, not month!

If winter gets to you, FL is an inexpensive flight and who will have discretionary cash to make frequent visits if you wish. Ohio winters are about the same as Long Island, and Northern NJ.
Nothing fierce. They are warmer than NE PA and all of upstate NY.

Moving here was the best decision that I ever made.
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Old 09-21-2014, 05:44 PM
 
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Here is a website that shows crime at a street level for any town you wish to check out:
http://www.spotcrime.com/
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:49 AM
 
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There are diverse political beliefs, and while churches of every stripe are available, there is no pressure to attend. We have no "dry counties" in Ohio (none that I know of) and there are many ways and places to have a good time - casinos, good restaurants, wineries and craft breweries. People is Ohio like to have fun.
Counties have the option to be dry and I think Adams County actually is. However, individual cities within them are allowed to make their own decisions regarding booze. Unlike a lot of "control" states, there is little in the way of prohibitionist tendencies in Ohio. Some dinky little townships are dry, but barely anybody lives in them anyway. At the very worst, the podunk counties are mixed.

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Yes salaries are somewhat lower than in NY. To give an example, an RN with a BSN might make $65,000 in metro NY/NJ. However, his house payment on a modest three bedroom home would be about $2,500. Then there are property taxes that would average any where from $6000 to 15,000 per year.
In Ohio, the same RN might earn $ 50,000 a year. With a house payment of under $1000 and taxes from $1000 to $3000 - per year, not month!
In my 3 experiences with coastal positions that I interviewed and received offers for, it seemed they would generally offer 20-30% more than average in gross salary. However, your salary would need to go up 40% (or even 50%) just to break even from the increased cost of living. In the late 90's, I was offered a position at a Bay Area tech company. The typical, 600-700 sq. ft. studio apartment rental cost alone (in a decent area) nearly tripled my mortgage payment. I basically calculated that I would need $35,000 more in take home pay just to live the same, but with a significant downgrade in living arrangements. Needless to say, the offer wasn't that good. So, I said no thanks.

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Moving here was the best decision that I ever made.
Not permanently leaving was mine.
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:56 AM
 
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It's not the only metric used to define migration. That's why I included the following sentence, "However, when you factor in international migration and natural growth (births), Ohio comes out with an increase in population."
Then why include it as a caveat? "Domestic" migration is largely irrelevant.
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