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01-17-2008, 11:33 AM
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Casino Gambling in Ohio
Just thought I would bring this topic into the mix. What do you think of Casino Gambling for Ohio?
Heres my view. I think it would be great. If the state can run a lottery, why can't we have casinos? It would bring in good jobs with benefits, it would bring in revenue, Ohio is loosing on average over a billion dollars a year because Ohioans are going to other states spending money on other states' casinos. We could build casinos in cities such as Cleveland, Toledo or Cincinnati. Have a lakefront casinos in Cleveland, build a casino in Toledo's new Marina District or a floating rivefront casino in Cincinnati. What do you think of casinos in Ohio?
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01-17-2008, 11:46 AM
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I probably wouldn't go because we very seldom gamble. But I'm definitely in favor of casino gambling since it would hopefully grab some of the Ohio dollars that go to IN and KY. I assume that the vast majority of my fellow Buckeyes are mature adults and I don't worry about the few that can't control themselves...
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01-18-2008, 07:32 AM
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I would definitely be for gambling but I wouldn't want it to be run by Indian tribes,
I read a post from a fellow who wanted all of the gambling to be established in a totally new town, located in the center of Ohio which would rival las Vegas.
allow gambling in this town only and the this would satisfy the people who think crime follows the casinos , the profits would be used to run the town and disperse to each county in Ohio by placing it in the center of the state it would stop the hiring of workers from other states unless they want a long commute.
One town with gambling ,many casinos ,shows, and attractions, just like Vegas all paid for from the profits of the casinos.
One just needs to drive across the WV border and I dare you to find any other plates from another state other than Ohio, they are reaping untold profits which could be left here in Ohio. as I say make a town that will rival las Vegas!
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01-18-2008, 09:11 AM
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This is the thread that htlong is talking about. It was written a year ago. I didn't think that anybody had bothered to read it.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio/...o-casinos.html
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01-18-2008, 05:57 PM
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I agree completely. Gambling and entertainment would be an excellent revenue stream promoting nothing but good things for any state as long as it were managed properly or should I say strictly regulated to limit the broadness of it. If not it would end up spread out all over the state in every town and small building and such, which would work too to a point but would more than likely promote more bad things than good in the end.
Maybe this is the reason why the issue keeps getting turned down every time it is brought up. I think the issue has always been to "general" or setup in a way to "back door" something else into law so to speak. And opening such a door would be disastrous and the people and Gov of Oh saw that.
I bet an issue with very tight restrictions and guidelines would pass with flying colors in OH and would work out beyond expectations. If not passed under strict limiting circumstances, then the people and/or Gov of OH don't have enough brains to blow a fart! And the rest of the States around OH and Canada will continue to prosper from the good things the gambling laws have promoted for them. What's sad is a good portion of that revenue is from OH residents too!
OH needs to find a way to get some higher level of gambling passed...........it will work contrary to what some may think!
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01-19-2008, 09:51 AM
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i believe the last time gambling was on the ballet only 3 counties voted to approve it. cuyahoga, lorain and lake.. it seems to me the rest of the state never approves these type of things...
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01-19-2008, 11:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1watertiger
i believe the last time gambling was on the ballet only 3 counties voted to approve it. cuyahoga, lorain and lake.. it seems to me the rest of the state never approves these type of things...
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Actually, Hamilton County voted in favor to gambling, even though we wouldn't have benefited from the outcome at all. This is probably because we have 3 casinos within a short drive. If you remember, the Argosy spent millions on lobbying to try to keep a casino out of Cincinnati.
Issue 3 passed in Hamilton County even though the people of Hamilton County didn't really benefit.
State Issue 3 Learn and Earn (Slots)
Hamilton County (Cincinnati)
YES - 137738 - 50%
NO - 135590 - 49%
Election Results at Cincinnati.com
It passed in the following counties:
Cuyahoga
Hamilton
Lake
Mahoning
Medina
Trumbull
Surprisingly, it lost 63%-37% in Franklin County. It didn't even come close in Lucas, either (57%-43%).
Here are the totals:
2006 Election Results
•*70% + of Cuyahoga County voted for Strickland. Strickland doesn't want casinos.
Image of "Voinovich & Strickland Speak Out Against Gambling":
http://www.wcpn.org/news/2006/07-09/...ambling/01.jpg
The end result would've been Cuyahoga County and only Cuyahoga County benefiting from this.
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01-20-2008, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephan_K
I agree completely. Gambling and entertainment would be an excellent revenue stream promoting nothing but good things for any state as long as it were managed properly or should I say strictly regulated to limit the broadness of it. If not it would end up spread out all over the state in every town and small building and such, which would work too to a point but would more than likely promote more bad things than good in the end.
Maybe this is the reason why the issue keeps getting turned down every time it is brought up. I think the issue has always been to "general" or setup in a way to "back door" something else into law so to speak. And opening such a door would be disastrous and the people and Gov of Oh saw that.
I bet an issue with very tight restrictions and guidelines would pass with flying colors in OH and would work out beyond expectations. If not passed under strict limiting circumstances, then the people and/or Gov of OH don't have enough brains to blow a fart! And the rest of the States around OH and Canada will continue to prosper from the good things the gambling laws have promoted for them. What's sad is a good portion of that revenue is from OH residents too!
OH needs to find a way to get some higher level of gambling passed...........it will work contrary to what some may think!
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Wow, great post. Couldn't have said it better myself. The thing is, if we can get some strict laws on this so people don't take it out of control we can be looking at something good and new for Ohio. We need this revenue badly, and its a shame to see every state around us getting gambling, and looking at the wonders it is doing for these states.
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01-21-2008, 01:10 PM
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Right now, Ohioians are going to WV to gamble (for close gambling) , & our $$$ is going there to their schools instead of ours. PA passed their gambling issue when ours lost. I voted against it, & I'll tell you why. Ohio didn't do it right, like PA did. PA had contractors bidding, for more $$$ for the state. Ohio just went w/ 1 contractor, & didn't try to get more $$$ by having a bidding war, like PA did. As soon as we do it right, I want it! Of course, I guess, even flawed, something is better than nothing, right? Feel free to add to what I've said, some of it might be a bit rusty since it was over a year ago. LOL
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01-21-2008, 04:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckeyezRule
Right now, Ohioians are going to WV to gamble (for close gambling) , & our $$$ is going there to their schools instead of ours. PA passed their gambling issue when ours lost. I voted against it, & I'll tell you why. Ohio didn't do it right, like PA did. PA had contractors bidding, for more $$$ for the state. Ohio just went w/ 1 contractor, & didn't try to get more $$$ by having a bidding war, like PA did. As soon as we do it right, I want it! Of course, I guess, even flawed, something is better than nothing, right? Feel free to add to what I've said, some of it might be a bit rusty since it was over a year ago. LOL
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That makes a lot of sense. I have never thought about it that way before. Ohio just needs to figure it out and do it the right way. We cannot afford to loose this kinda of money to other states.
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