08-12-2015, 02:43 AM
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One Potato, Two Potato
In 1964, the independent film "One Potato, Two Potato" was filmed in Painesville, chosen for its charm, with several scenes taking place in the city's Public Square park.
One Potato, Two Potato -- (Movie Clip) Because You're With Me!
Unfortunately, much of the southeast portion of the square, including the Civil War-era Parmly Hotel, were subsequently leveled as part of an "urban renewal," and even more unfortunately replaced by a fortress-like, multi-story retail and office building which no street level access. It was an amazing disaster for the city, once a significant retail hub.
Parmly Hotel, as shown in some scenes in "One Potato, Two Potato."
John G. Walter - The Parmly Hotel - Painesville, Ohio
See reply 27 here: Main St., Painesville, post-WWII (the caption is largely inaccurate; Carlisle Dept. Store was larger and survived in a new building on Public Square for a decade or more after Gail G. Grant went out of business; I have no memory of any fire precipitating Painesville's urban renewal calamity; Painesville just got ambitious just before historical rehab credits saved many other historic core business districts in other Western Reserve cities):
http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=28418.0
Reply 29 above has a great shot of the Parmly Hotel's W. Main St. frontage with Public Square in the background. Note all of the street-level retail outlets.
You can see pictures of the disastrously designed New Market Mall (apparently now called Victoria Place) here:
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-ge...m_s4YZA8Qg.jpg '
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-ge...Mo7PqJPNkY.jpg '
For some reason, pedestrians visiting New Market Mall (Victoria Place) are required to go up a flight of steps, or down a sunken stair well to access the building from street level. Those 19th century architects, who just assumed that street level access was a necessity, knew what they were doing. Could you imagine what a flop Easton Town Center in Columbus, or Crocker Park or Legacy Village in Greater Cleveland would be if they were designed like this.
"One Potato, Two Potato" actually scandalized Painesville because it considered itself much more progressive than the city depicted in the film.
The movie's screenplay was nominated for an Academy Award, and Barbara Barrie won best actress for her role in the move at the Cannes Film Festival.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Potato,_Two_Potato
08-20-2015, 10:33 AM
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That's some incredible history of Pville WRNative. Tragic that it worked out that way. I enjoy the square as it exists now but hope that something will be done to improve vibrancy even more at some point. That movie looks interesting I will have to watch at some point, and good point about the general progressiveness of residents.
08-20-2015, 11:45 AM
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That's some incredible history of Pville WRNative. Tragic that it worked out that way. I enjoy the square as it exists now but hope that something will be done to improve vibrancy even more at some point. That movie looks interesting I will have to watch at some point, and good point about the general progressiveness of residents.
Clevelander, I greatly wrote post 23 for you, given your connections with the area.
"One Potato, Two Potato" today is very dated, even though it was reflective of prejudices in much of the U.S. when it was filmed. For locals, especially the elderly, many of the scenes are very nostalgic.
Painesville's urban renewal might have worked if its architects had been astute and created something like Crocker Park instead of a bizarre, fortress-like structure.
08-22-2015, 09:27 AM
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My recollection is that Painesville square was a dump when I lived nearby in Concord in the 80s, odds are its gotten worse..
08-22-2015, 11:55 AM
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My recollection is that Painesville square was a dump when I lived nearby in Concord in the 80s, odds are its gotten worse..
No, it's actually better due to a repurposing of the old Carlisle's department store building, and it was never a "dump" (some persons are just very free with exaggerated and ridiculous opinions) as it has several historical structures that are well maintained as well as Veterans Park. It's the center of Lake County government, with both the county court house and county administration building located on the square.
Panoramio - Photo of Lake County Ohio Courthouse thru the Square
Bowen: Richard L. Bowen & Associates Inc. > Projects > Government >Lake County Court House Expansion
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6220/6...1c11efea_b.jpg
I've never seen an article about its architectural merits, but the Methodist Church in Painesville on the square is a wonderful piece of architecture IMO with a great sanctuary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method...of_Painesville
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ist_Church.jpg
Towering testaments to history
Although ignored by most, the Lake County Courthouse eagle and statues of Cain and Abel are among the best that I've seen on any Ohio county courthouse.
Panoramio - Photo of Lake County Courthouse - Painesville, Ohio
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/70791025363086059/
OOSI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M...n_%26_Abel.jpg
OOSI
OOSI
This old Cleveland Trust bank building, once one of the largest branches of what now is KeyCorp, is now the county administration building on the square.
http://media.news-herald.com/2014/06...ainesville/#10
There are other pictures of it here. It's located on the east end of the square, across Main St. from the Victoria Place redevelopment, pictures of which also are here, as well as the redeveloped Carlisle department store building into law offices and street level shopping, including a Subway franchise (see picture below).
http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=13930.0
Painesville City Hall, located on the west end of the square and built in 1840, was the original county courthouse. For several decades, the city hall's copper dome has been chemically treated so it doesn't form the normal green patina characteristic of copper domes. I haven't seen that anywhere else for some reason.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~oh...tyHallSueB.jpg
The problem with the square in Painesville is that street-level commercial activity is now negligible due to architectural blunders described in earlier posts.
There are many events in Veterans Park that draw large crowds.
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08-29-2015, 06:31 AM
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My recollection is that Painesville square was a dump when I lived nearby in Concord in the 80s, odds are its gotten worse..
And you'd be tragically wrong! The park was never a dump, anyway ...
08-29-2015, 07:29 AM
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No, it's actually better due to a repurposing of the old Carlisle's department store building, and it was never a "dump" (some persons are just very free with exaggerated and ridiculous opinions) as it has several historical structures that are well maintained as well as Veterans Park. It's the center of Lake County government, with both the county court house and county administration building located on the square.
Panoramio - Photo of Lake County Ohio Courthouse thru the Square
Bowen: Richard L. Bowen & Associates Inc. > Projects > Government >Lake County Court House Expansion
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6220/6...1c11efea_b.jpg
I've never seen an article about its architectural merits, but the Methodist Church in Painesville on the square is a wonderful piece of architecture IMO with a great sanctuary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method...of_Painesville
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ist_Church.jpg
Towering testaments to history
Although ignored by most, the Lake County Courthouse eagle and statues of Cain and Abel are among the best that I've seen on any Ohio county courthouse.
Panoramio - Photo of Lake County Courthouse - Painesville, Ohio
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/70791025363086059/
OOSI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M...n_%26_Abel.jpg
OOSI
OOSI
This old Cleveland Trust bank building, once one of the largest branches of what now is KeyCorp, is now the county administration building on the square.
Photos: A Look Back at Painesville - News-Herald
There are other pictures of it here. It's located on the east end of the square, across Main St. from the Victoria Place redevelopment, pictures of which also are here, as well as the redeveloped Carlisle department store building into law offices and street level shopping, including a Subway franchise (see picture below).
http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=13930.0
Painesville City Hall, located on the west end of the square and built in 1840, was the original county courthouse. For several decades, the city hall's copper dome has been chemically treated so it doesn't form the normal green patina characteristic of copper domes. I haven't seen that anywhere else for some reason.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~oh...tyHallSueB.jpg
The problem with the square in Painesville is that street-level commercial activity is now negligible due to architectural blunders described in earlier posts.
There are many events in Veterans Park that draw large crowds.
Here's a photo of the large stained glass window that fills most of the south end of the Painesville United Methodist Church sanctuary, described in the "Towering testaments to history" article linked above.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3261/3...6c9b9c559b.jpg
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Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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