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Unread 10-08-2008, 10:29 PM
 
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Default Kiwatha Street

Sorry I haven't got back to you all sooner, but had some serious health issues (heart) to get fixed. Yes I am still going to move to Youngstown, wouldn't miss it for the world. It has one of the greatest treasures, (Mill Creek Park) in the USA, in my opinion. I am also very happy to see so much involvement, and pure desire by so many citizens to improve their city. As an outsider so far, I can only say Hooray, and can't wait to get my hands dirty helping this cause. I for one, am sure of the outcome if everyone keeps steady foreward momentum going. You all have been very kind in responding to my email and I hope to see you all soon in Youngstown. Also glad to see the Idora accepted into the Neighborhood Plan by the city. Many good things coming to Youngstown, The Chevrolet Cruz will be a big one as it gets rolling, a large economic stimulis. I still think Kiwatha Street is a very special circumstance on the southside, and am looking foreward to many years there. STAY POSITIVE, BE HAPPY, LOOK AHEAD, NEVER BACK, AND THINGS WILL WORK OUT FOR THE BEST, ALWAYS...

Thanks Very Kindly,
Fred Wolf

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Unread 10-09-2008, 04:59 AM
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Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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Sorry to hear about your health, but glad you're recovering. I wish you luck with your further recovery, and your move to the city.
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Unread 10-09-2008, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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Fred,

Glad to hear you are doing better! Let us know when you get to Ohio or if you have any more questions.
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Unread 10-14-2008, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Ok, let's say I'm a representative for the City of Youngstown. My initial questions would be:

- What industry is the business in?
- How many people are you going to employ?
- How large a lot would you use?

Ok here is one for ya........
Walmart wants/wanted to build a new store/super store on the north side... belmont ave. The mayor tells walmart that 25% of the employees have to come from youngstown.
Why would you want to alientate walmart? and secondly, who cares where the employees live?.... I am sure it would be in the youngstown/warren area.
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Unread 10-14-2008, 03:32 PM
Status: "Make no little plans." (set 3 hours ago)
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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Ok here is one for ya........
Walmart wants/wanted to build a new store/super store on the north side... belmont ave. The mayor tells walmart that 25% of the employees have to come from youngstown.
Why would you want to alientate walmart? and secondly, who cares where the employees live?.... I am sure it would be in the youngstown/warren area.
Why did Walmart choose to make it a problem now? The same contract for water service has been in use for 20 years. Walmart didn't have a problem with the contract when they built the Austintown store. Why is it this mayor's fault that they have a problem with it now?

The mayor sat down with Walmart and worked everything out, anyway.
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Unread 10-15-2008, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I wasn't talking about water service.....
but it's good to hear that things have been worked out
.... my point was.... why does the mayor have to attempt to dictate to any business trying to start up here.
Jobs are jobs and this area needs jobs
Thanks
T
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Unread 10-15-2008, 09:11 AM
Status: "Make no little plans." (set 3 hours ago)
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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The "best effort to hire 25% from Youngstown" thing is a clause in the standard water service contract. It's been there 20 years.

I think it's possible that the mayor wasn't even aware it was in the contract until it the media informed him it was causing a huge problem.
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Unread 10-15-2008, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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J,

I didn't know that... thanks for the information.
It explains things.
Thanks again
T
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Unread 10-15-2008, 01:08 PM
 
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fred, kiwatha is a nice spot very close to mill creek, but also a very dangerous area. so, if one were to move to youngstown city, that would be one of the few places that would make sense. i do hope that your house has a garage.


the whole thing with this topic is that it seems to be inspired by the current "movement" of feeling positive about youngstown. while it is true that people who feel positive will work hard to change things; this movement is still small, confined to the internet, and dedicated to taking credit for future gentrification rather than actually doing something tangible. the natives, and probably will since the area is used to, and expects, slightly more efficent corruption over honest incompetence.

meanwhile, there are only low-paying jobs left in the area....
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Unread 10-15-2008, 04:44 PM
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Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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the whole thing with this topic is that it seems to be inspired by the current "movement" of feeling positive about youngstown... ...this movement is still small, confined to the internet,..
It's also still new. IMO, what they are doing is mostly talking about things that are going on in the city that residents can be proud of. Occasionally, the bloggers will also discuss some of their own ideas. For too long, everyone just focused on the negative aspects of Youngstown.

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and dedicated to taking credit for future gentrification rather than actually doing something tangible.
What makes you say this? Can you point to a specific blog entry that illustrates your point?

Phil Kidd--the creator of Defend Youngstown--is now working for the city as the downtown events coordinator. Thanks to him, there was a weekly farmers' market, free outdoor movies at the Chevrolet Center, the "Downtown Dash," Jonesfest, and a number of other new downtown events. That seems pretty tangible to me.

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meanwhile, there are only low-paying jobs left in the area....
Jobs are tough to find. But they exist. I've said this before--maybe in this thread--but I moved to the area because I found a job here before I found a job back home in the Canton area. And, if you do have a good job, this is a great area to live in.
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