Thinking about leaving Ohio??? Get in line and fill this out (Cleveland: assessors, attorney)

[urbancharlotte]

Originally Posted by CortlandGirl79

I'm talking about Mexicans from Mexico, not Latinos that live here.

I used to be an over the road trucker. You are talking about the Mexican drivers in the Laredo, Texas area that are making 12 to 15 cents per mile on American soil. American drivers make anywhere from 25 to 45 cents per mile. This is a concern to the over the road sector of the trucking industry for sure!!! I can tell you that the federal crack down on the trucking industry after 911 will put an end to these companies that are using cheap Mexican labor. This is something that is not as widespread as you may think. I would say less than a quarter of a percent of American freight is pulled by cheap Mexican labor.

The truth is that most of us experienced drivers have long given up the low wage over the road sector for the higher paying (home everyday) local freight. Local freight companies can not get away with using non-American drivers. They just can't. If they tried, the feds would shut them down faster than a drug house. Local trucking and nursing is booming in Ohio. These are not the only booming careers in Ohio, but they are a good start. A nurse and a trucker in the same household together makes $100k a year easily in Ohio!!! Trust me, I know!!!

[CortlandGirl79]

Well, hopefully those truckers aren't hauling parts from automotive plants and suppliers.......if the big three goes under so will those trucking companies.

[urbancharlotte]

Originally Posted by CortlandGirl79

Well, hopefully those truckers aren't hauling parts from automotive plants and suppliers.......if the big three goes under so will those trucking companies.

Not to get too far off topic, but this is about why people are leaving Ohio. I think we all can agree that jobs (or lack there of) is why most folks are leaving. I suggest that Ohioans look into non plant jobs that can not be moved out of the region. Health care, transportation, government, and several others are great places to start.

Someone also mentioned the unions in Ohio. Many businesses simply will not expand into union dominated states. This is something that Ohio politicians must tackle. Ohio can thrive if people open their minds a little to the possibility of learning a new career. The technical schools in Ohio are trying to train people for various jobs. Not everybody can be helped into a new career, but some can.

Before I left Charlotte for Washington CH, I was told by several people that I was making a "backwards" move. I was also told that I would not find work very easily. Well, they were wrong. Till this day, my highest pay check in 4 days of work was made in Ohio. If it wasn't for the warm weather in Charlotte, I would still be in Ohio.

The only reason why I post on this thread is because I wanted to tell others that Ohio is really not as bad as many say it is. Ohio has nice sized "real cities" that are loaded with potential. Ohio is not all doom and gloom.

[xwideopenskyx]

Originally Posted by urbancharlotte

The traditional plant jobs are going away for good in Ohio (and the rest of America too). Jobs like trucking CAN NOT BE OUTSOURCED!!! Trucking is just one example of a stable career in Ohio. Moving away from Ohio is just a quick fix that sometimes doesn't work. I am thankful for all of the growth we have here in Charlotte, but I don't like the fact that this growth comes at the expense of more established urban states like Ohio. It seems to me that areas like Charlotte should figure out ways to grow without "robbing Peter".

Just wondering how many of the 8000 jobs being lost at DHL (Wilmington, OH) are trucking jobs? Yes, trucking can't be outsourced all right but it can be negatively affected by plant closings.

Less goods manufactured in US = less goods to transport

Lets not forget so soon how many truckers went out of business when the gas prices were at $4-5/G.

[urbancharlotte]

Originally Posted by xwideopenskyx

Just wondering how many of the 8000 jobs being lost at DHL (Wilmington, OH) are trucking jobs? Yes, trucking can't be outsourced all right but it can be negatively affected by plant closings.

Less goods manufactured in US = less goods to transport

Lets not forget so soon how many truckers went out of business when the gas prices were at $4-5/G.

Incorrect. The trucking industry could care less whether or not the goods are foreign or domestic. I have hauled massive containers from ship yards in New York and Chareston with Asian script all over them!!! I also haul gas from the Middle East. As long as America consumes goods (domestic or foreign doen't matter) the trucker is busy.

As for the trucking companies that failed due to a fuel expense, this is almost laughable. Think about it. If the higher gas prices caused someone to lose their car to the bank, chances are they could not afford that car from the start.

The same thing goes for these small trucking companies that went under due to fuel. They were barely making it before the high cost of diesel.

I work for the Nation's largest gas hauling group. They are headquartered in Ohio BTW. My life is not perfect, but it was darn good near Ohio.!!!

[Mrs. P]

Originally Posted by urbancharlotte

Not to get too far off topic, but this is about why people are leaving Ohio. I think we all can agree that jobs (or lack there of) is why most folks are leaving. I suggest that Ohioans look into non plant jobs that can not be moved out of the region. Health care, transportation, government, and several others are great places to start.

Someone also mentioned the unions in Ohio. Many businesses simply will not expand into union dominated states. This is something that Ohio politicians must tackle. Ohio can thrive if people open their minds a little to the possibility of learning a new career. The technical schools in Ohio are trying to train people for various jobs. Not everybody can be helped into a new career, but some can.

Before I left Charlotte for Washington CH, I was told by several people that I was making a "backwards" move. I was also told that I would not find work very easily. Well, they were wrong. Till this day, my highest pay check in 4 days of work was made in Ohio. If it wasn't for the warm weather in Charlotte, I would still be in Ohio.

The only reason why I post on this thread is because I wanted to tell others that Ohio is really not as bad as many say it is. Ohio has nice sized "real cities" that are loaded with potential. Ohio is not all doom and gloom.

Yep....same job I do in Charlotte I did in Ohio....pay difference? 10 grand a year...exact same job, in same exact business. And Charlotte (including the metro area) is much more expensive than where I lived in Ohio. However since I now live across the state line in SC, things are are cheaper than they were in Ohio...all except food...it's still outrageous down here.

I'm not so sure about the weather anymore either....I saw on Charlotte channel 36 earlier this week and I quote " in the first 10 months of 2008, we have had lower than normal temps 8 of the 10 months. unquote.

Today? what was it a balmy 40 or so degrees with wind gusts up to 40 miles per hour? No better than Ohio at all. However, Charlotte does have much more sunshine, that I agree on, and that I love !!

[Mrs. P]

Originally Posted by urbancharlotte

Incorrect. The trucking industry could care less whether or not the goods are foreign or domestic. I have hauled massive containers from ship yards in New York and Chareston with Asian script all over them!!! I also haul gas from the Middle East. As long as America consumes goods (domestic or foreign doen't matter) the trucker is busy.

As for the trucking companies that failed due to a fuel expense, this is almost laughable. Think about it. If the higher gas prices caused someone to lose their car to the bank, chances are they could not afford that car from the start.

The same thing goes for these small trucking companies that went under due to fuel. They were barely making it before the high cost of diesel.

I work for the Nation's largest gas hauling group. They are headquartered in Ohio BTW. My life is not perfect, but it was darn good near Ohio.!!!

hmmmm....container hauling Charlotte and or Charleston? sounds like you either worked for the same carrier I do now, or one of my companies competitors. I worked 35 years in Ohio at a huge trucking companies headquarters, and work in Charlotte at another smaller container trucking company...like I said previously....10 grand a year less working in NC, than in Ohio doing the EXACT to the "t" job.

Oh well....it was my choice to move here. I adjusted to the lower wages, because I made sure when I came down here I had no debt.

[Mzdra]

TELL IT LIKE IT IS

1) Current or former Ohio location:cleveland

2) Why do you want to leave or have left?:my husband was recently murdered...I hate this city

3) Where outside of Ohio and why:Houston, Charlotte, Atlanta...weather

4) 2nd and 3rd Place Choices:see#3

5) What’s currently holding you back from moving if you haven't already left?:I have young children and a decent paying job...I afraid to leave my family and job.

6) Anything else you want to say?nope

[mathteacher09]

Originally Posted by Mzdra

TELL IT LIKE IT IS

1) Current or former Ohio location:cleveland

2) Why do you want to leave or have left?:my husband was recently murdered...I hate this city

3) Where outside of Ohio and why:Houston, Charlotte, Atlanta...weather

4) 2nd and 3rd Place Choices:see#3

5) What’s currently holding you back from moving if you haven't already left?:I have young children and a decent paying job...I afraid to leave my family and job.

6) Anything else you want to say?nope

God, how terrible. I can understand why you would want to start over somewhere else.

I currently live in Charlotte and LOVE it. I agree with what "Buckeye in SC" and "jstn" had to say above. I wish you luck.

[suzyQsanjose]

TELL IT LIKE IT IS

1) Current or former Ohio location:
Ashtabula County and Warren Southington areas
2) Why do you want to leave or have left?:
Bad weather, poor economy, poor education systems.
3) Where outside of Ohio and why:
San Jose, CA. Nice climate, good jobs, housing market is still better than Ohio

4) 2nd and 3rd Place Choices:
North Carolina and Texas
5) What’s currently holding you back from moving if you haven't already left?:
N/A

6) Anything else you want to say?
Ohio is a nice place to visit, wouldn't want to live there anymore.