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[Alaskapat528]

Originally Posted by SeabeeBolt

Ok, if they die off before winter, then why are they so thick in the summer? One would think that Alaska wouldn't have any at all .

My best half and I want to move to East End Oklahoma, some where around Muskogee or Cherokee. I was stationed at Ft Sill back in the late "70" and fell in love with the folks out there. I only came back to ohio because my Mom and Dad were still alive. Now its time to move on.

The really big mosquitos are out in what is referred to as the bush areas; they are the rural villages. My husband had to go to a village one summer for his job and he came back with something like 40 mosqito bites I counted. The mosquitos in Anchorage and the Mat-Su Valley aren't that large and some years seem worse then others for them. I don't know the actual dynamics of the nasty little buggers lol or their lifespan; just know they are a pain in the a**. I have never been to Oklahoma but would like to see it one day. How soon do you plan on moving and have you checked our their employment?

[EarthBound?]

Originally Posted by Alaskapat528

The really big mosquitos are out in what is referred to as the bush areas; they are the rural villages. My husband had to go to a village one summer for his job and he came back with something like 40 mosqito bites I counted. The mosquitos in Anchorage and the Mat-Su Valley aren't that large and some years seem worse then others for them. I don't know the actual dynamics of the nasty little buggers lol or their lifespan; just know they are a pain in the a**. I have never been to Oklahoma but would like to see it one day. How soon do you plan on moving and have you checked our their employment?

Not sure the time and date, but we need to sell our company and house before we take the wonderful leap west. As far as employment goes, truck drivers are always needed no matter were one may move too.
I would love to move close to a reservation and open a wood working shop and teach the kids a trade in wood crafts, just to keep them off the streets.

[Clevelander17]

Originally Posted by SeabeeBolt

Ok, if they die off before winter, then why are they so thick in the summer? One would think that Alaska wouldn't have any at all .

My best half and I want to move to East End Oklahoma, some where around Muskogee or Cherokee. I was stationed at Ft Sill back in the late "70" and fell in love with the folks out there. I only came back to ohio because my Mom and Dad were still alive. Now its time to move on.

I drove through Oklahoma a few times last year. It has some really gorgeous areas. However a big thumbs down to the tolls that one has to pay to drive on 40 and 44. Only stretch of highway on the trip between Cleveland and Phoenix that wasn't free.

[Alaskapat528]

[quote=SeabeeBolt;7376619]Not sure the time and date, but we need to sell our company and house before we take the wonderful leap west. As far as employment goes, truck drivers are always needed no matter were one may move too.
I would love to move close to a reservation and open a wood working shop and teach the kids a trade in wood crafts, just to keep them off the streets.[/QUOTE]

I think that's a great idea about teaching a trade. I really think in this time of great stress for everyone, we are all looking for a simpler, kinder way of life which sure isn't easy with what's going on with the economy.

[christmascandy1]

TELL IT LIKE IT IS

1) Current or former Ohio location:Warren/Niles area

2) Why do you want to leave or have left?:i did leave in around summer of 1996...to come to Texas..to keep our jobs which was agood thing,,as cle is now closed..its really sad..2..all my family lives in ohio and i miss it..

3) Where outside of Ohio and why:c above and i live in Texas now...dont ask about summers..its brutal@#

4) 2nd and 3rd Place Choices:n/a

5) What’s currently holding you back from moving if you haven't already left?:no jobs there

6) Anything else you want to say?i love ohio and wish they could turn it around also..the jobs department really sux there and looks like no hope for anything else...

[LewLew]

Originally Posted by Mikieo415

Not everybody in Ohio is in love with it, so I am starting this post for those who want to leave, or have left to tell us why.

TELL IT LIKE IT IS

1) Current or former Ohio location: Former: Shaker Heights

2) Why do you want to leave or have left?:Initially left NE OH to attend college in Cincinnati. Graduated, and moved to NYC to experience true culture and diversity. Have lived all over the country since mid 90's due to my job.

3) Where outside of Ohio and why: I currently reside in FL, and as stated, have lived in numerous places (Chicago, California, NYC, FL). My favority city has been Chicago for many reasons.

4) 2nd and 3rd Place Choices: N/a NE Ohio is my home. I have not at all enjoyed the SE. Very transient, no sense of community, and 85 degree Christmases suck.

5) What’s currently holding you back from moving if you haven't already left?: We already left, but are actually moving back up.

6) Anything else you want to say?

There is no place that is utopia. I'm all for experiencing other places, and everyone making a choice on what is best for them. For us, the hometown pride, community feeling, strong schools, and friendly people are bringing us back home. However, we have experienced many other places, so we have a frame of reference as to where we want our last stop to be.

[EarthBound?]

[quote=Alaskapat528;7402336]

Originally Posted by SeabeeBolt

Not sure the time and date, but we need to sell our company and house before we take the wonderful leap west. As far as employment goes, truck drivers are always needed no matter were one may move too.
I would love to move close to a reservation and open a wood working shop and teach the kids a trade in wood crafts, just to keep them off the streets.[/QUOTE]

I think that's a great idea about teaching a trade. I really think in this time of great stress for everyone, we are all looking for a simpler, kinder way of life which sure isn't easy with what's going on with the economy.

Thanks for the compliment there Alaskapat528,

I've always believed that skilled workers are still more important than college educated ones. A person with skills in carpentry, masons, steel works, heavy equipment operaters, truck drivers, farmers and so on and so on will always be in need more then others. I see so many many kids these days that only have computer skill standing in line hoping to get that one open job, it not funny. But a truck driver can put his app out there and he'll have half-a-dozen jobs to choose from. And everyone needs a home to live in or to be repaired from time to time.
Don't get me wrong, college is a good thing to have, but one should never limit themselves to just one trade. And fast food employment or game boys playing is not a trade or a skill to hinge the rest of your life on. We need to help these kids now, and get them back on the right path. To many parents are just giving in to them and buying them what ever they want. Instead of making them work hard for it, so they will appreciate it more. Our greatest generation (chilren from the depression and WWII) is just about gone now and we need to step up and take over. When we're old enough to be in the rest homes, we're screwed by the looks of generation X.

[000000]

don't look now, but the greatest generation feared for their kids, too. it's just a part of being old and having your whole world change under you.

[Alaskapat528]

[quote=SeabeeBolt;7506066]

Originally Posted by Alaskapat528

Thanks for the compliment there Alaskapat528,

I've always believed that skilled workers are still more important than college educated ones. A person with skills in carpentry, masons, steel works, heavy equipment operaters, truck drivers, farmers and so on and so on will always be in need more then others. I see so many many kids these days that only have computer skill standing in line hoping to get that one open job, it not funny. But a truck driver can put his app out there and he'll have half-a-dozen jobs to choose from. And everyone needs a home to live in or to be repaired from time to time.
Don't get me wrong, college is a good thing to have, but one should never limit themselves to just one trade. And fast food employment or game boys playing is not a trade or a skill to hinge the rest of your life on. We need to help these kids now, and get them back on the right path. To many parents are just giving in to them and buying them what ever they want. Instead of making them work hard for it, so they will appreciate it more. Our greatest generation (chilren from the depression and WWII) is just about gone now and we need to step up and take over. When we're old enough to be in the rest homes, we're screwed by the looks of generation X.

You're welcome. I do agree with you about the importance of skilled trade workers. Yes, college is important depending on what they major in and which career path they want to pursue. Problem I'm seeing is what my dad use to refer to as "educated fools." A friend of mine found out the meaning of this first-hand couple years ago at her job. There was a job opening and her supervisor (who had 20 yrs with this place) and was excellent at what he did applied for it. He didn't get the job, a young college grad got it. This college grad had absolutely no idea what to do; no hands-on skills or experience and was trained by the guy who had 20 yrs with the company.

Also, the colleges are turning out people to strictly look at the bottom line of profit and that people do not matter. My husband is a Journeyman Electrician with a specialty in motors, and would now prefer to teach the trade but he'll have to get a teacher certification which involves a degree. His 4-year apprenticeship and 25 yrs of experience obviously doesn't count. BTW do you know how Oklahoma's economy compares to Ohio? The recession is slowly catching up with Alaska is what I'm reading and hearing from friends there.

[cwilloughby78]

[quote=Alaskapat528;7509062 BTW do you know how Oklahoma's economy compares to Ohio? The recession is slowly catching up with Alaska is what I'm reading and hearing from friends there.[/quote]

[SIZE=3]Unfortunately this recession’s impact is on a global scale so no one place is immune, not even Shangri-La. My wife and I have been talking about getting out of Ohio for years now, mostly to experience new places and broaden our family’s horizons. But right now I think the best thing to do is to hunker down hold on and ride this recession out like a very turbulent plane trip and hope the plane doesn’t crash. The sun will eventually rise again, yes even on Ohio and the more I think about it the more I think I want to be a part of the reemergence of Ohio as a real economic and social powerhouse in the nation. I know that Ohio has some real problems to deal with but Ohio is just as good a place to ride out the storm as any other harbor.[/SIZE]