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05-20-2009, 08:08 AM
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I think what you fail to realize Hey_Hey is thatl, while some may agree with your definition of "nice weather", not all do. My idea of nice weather is four different seasons. I love summer, of course, but I also love the cool fall evening with the colorful leaves. I love the snow around Christmas. I do wish winter was a month or two shorter, but it makes spring one of the most exciting times of year when it comes, and you really can't beat the weather we've been having in Cleveland the last few weeks. Low 70s, sunny, and a breeze is absolutely perfect for getting outside and being active and not soaking your shirt full of sweat in 5 minutes. To me, our weather is much better than dealing with hurricanes, thunderstorms that come out of nowhere almost every summer afternoon, and sweltering heat and humidity for 6 months a year. Some people don't freak out at the first sight of snow. If it snowed 9 months a year, that'd be a different story, but I actually love a good snow storm a few times each winter.
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And that's great JamJeff b/c Ohio needs people like you, but I have to say that you are probably in the minority of people who like Ohio - at least northern Ohio - weather. Numerous people my age (I'm in my mid-20s) that are friends have already relocated to Florida, here, North Carolina, Georgia, California just to name a few and not one of them has said they miss Ohio weather over what they have now; that's not to say as you point out that there aren't times when we'd prefer the cooler summer weather when we have a hot mid-July day and it's 95 degrees outside! However, that's about the only time I miss it at all. And while the majority of my family and friends are still in NE Ohio, almost all of them w/the exception of a few who like you really like the 4 distinct seasons, etc., moan and groan about the weather often when we talk about it, and how it's cloudy and snowing even into April, or it's cold and rainy all the time, etc.
And not to brag about it, but we have low 70s and sunny, breezy days too, they just occur in late March/early April, and in fact, the last couple days have been exactly that as we are having surprisingly mild weather for this time of year. It's also 50s & 60s and sunny for the majority of December - February w/the exception of the few cold snaps that we get that take us into the 40s & occasionally 30s.
So I think you are right in saying that some really do enjoy Ohio weather as you do, but I'd definitely say they are the minority and not the majority. Most of our family & friends stay b/c they are either afraid to move to another area of the country and away from home and what they've always known or b/c of their families. And both are acceptable reasons to stay, but very few stay b/c of the weather.
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05-20-2009, 08:20 AM
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Wow, what part of Florida are you in? Go check out Fl's temps on City-Data. They seem to be a lot hotter than you experience.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/weath...t-2-a-483.html
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05-20-2009, 08:50 AM
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I'm not in Florida, I'm in Columbia, SC, today's high is 78 
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05-20-2009, 09:51 AM
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I'm not in Florida, I'm in Columbia, SC, today's high is 78 
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That'll teach me to read before my eyes are open!
Sorry. 
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05-20-2009, 12:10 PM
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agreed. ok so as far as ranking the cities. sports goes to cleveland (3 pro teams) #2 cincy (2 pro teams) #3 columbus (1 pro team).. what do you want to rank now ? 
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no agurement as far as ranking by (pro) sports...but Columbus has two pro teams.
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05-21-2009, 09:10 PM
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"Nice" weather is all a matter of a opinion. And when the folks from the Carolina Board of Tourism and Relocation are posting on the Ohio forum, of course they're going to downplay the negative aspect of the weather, like the summer months where 90s are the norm, and that's not a dry heat, either. That said, people go where the jobs are. Right now, due to boneheaded economic policies, Cleveland and Ohio are struggling. That has lead to the cities' and state's population shifts more than anything else. The Twin Cities, Chicago, Boston, New York, etc. are examples of cities that, despite weather that is just as bad as Cleveland's, are still doing well.
Now that's not to say that there aren't inherent advantages to being a warm weather, Sun Belt state. Warmer weather means more opportunity for tourism dollars. And getting battered by hurricanes or earthquakes, as opposed to "just" large amounts of snow, means that you can earn the rest of the country's pity and finagle federal aid from Congress to deal with the results of that inclement weather. Additionally, close proximity to Latin America means an unending supply of cheap, easily abused labor. No wonder these areas have been growing so rapidly!
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05-21-2009, 09:14 PM
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no agurement as far as ranking by (pro) sports...but Columbus has two pro teams.
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That's debatable. 
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05-22-2009, 12:42 PM
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"Nice" weather is all a matter of a opinion. And when the folks from the Carolina Board of Tourism and Relocation are posting on the Ohio forum, of course they're going to downplay the negative aspect of the weather, like the summer months where 90s are the norm, and that's not a dry heat, either. That said, people go where the jobs are. Right now, due to boneheaded economic policies, Cleveland and Ohio are struggling. That has lead to the cities' and state's population shifts more than anything else. The Twin Cities, Chicago, Boston, New York, etc. are examples of cities that, despite weather that is just as bad as Cleveland's, are still doing well.
Now that's not to say that there aren't inherent advantages to being a warm weather, Sun Belt state. Warmer weather means more opportunity for tourism dollars. And getting battered by hurricanes or earthquakes, as opposed to "just" large amounts of snow, means that you can earn the rest of the country's pity and finagle federal aid from Congress to deal with the results of that inclement weather. Additionally, close proximity to Latin America means an unending supply of cheap, easily abused labor. No wonder these areas have been growing so rapidly!
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One of the best posts I have read!
Rep points for you...
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05-22-2009, 11:15 PM
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"Nice" weather is all a matter of a opinion. And when the folks from the Carolina Board of Tourism and Relocation are posting on the Ohio forum, of course they're going to downplay the negative aspect of the weather, like the summer months where 90s are the norm, and that's not a dry heat, either.
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If you have read my other posts, I clearly point out that the only time I'd trade Ohio weather for SC weather is July & August when it is extremely hot as you point out. That said, I'm willing to deal w/90s for 2 months for the trade-off of mild winters and temperatures throughout the remainder of the year. But you are absolutely right, July & August are much more pleasant in Ohio than here. And again, not everywhere in the 'sun belt' deals w/hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. all the time as you say. The hurricanes mainly effect Florida and coastal cities, we are far enough inland here (as well as Charlotte) that while we could definitely see some rough storms, we're not going to get anywhere near the worst of a potential hurricane that comes through the Carolinas as it is over 100 miles from the ocean here.
It's not for everyone, and as you point out, if Ohio's economy hadn't been in the crapper the last decade plus, we probably would have never left in the first place, but my wife was tired of being laid off from teaching b/c schools are constantly cutting there. Now that we are here, we enjoy it, but more power to you if you like Ohio. I'm not saying Ohio is the worst place on earth to live, but having lived in both places, to me, the weather is far nicer here the majority of the time.
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05-23-2009, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye in SC
If you have read my other posts, I clearly point out that the only time I'd trade Ohio weather for SC weather is July & August when it is extremely hot as you point out. That said, I'm willing to deal w/90s for 2 months for the trade-off of mild winters and temperatures throughout the remainder of the year. But you are absolutely right, July & August are much more pleasant in Ohio than here. And again, not everywhere in the 'sun belt' deals w/hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. all the time as you say. The hurricanes mainly effect Florida and coastal cities, we are far enough inland here (as well as Charlotte) that while we could definitely see some rough storms, we're not going to get anywhere near the worst of a potential hurricane that comes through the Carolinas as it is over 100 miles from the ocean here.
It's not for everyone, and as you point out, if Ohio's economy hadn't been in the crapper the last decade plus, we probably would have never left in the first place, but my wife was tired of being laid off from teaching b/c schools are constantly cutting there. Now that we are here, we enjoy it, but more power to you if you like Ohio. I'm not saying Ohio is the worst place on earth to live, but having lived in both places, to me, the weather is far nicer here the majority of the time.
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I am glad you are enjoying yourself.
The next decade looks very promising for Ohio. Ohio probaly will see one of the biggest jumps in money and diversification into our economy. There are already plenty of start-up companies moving into the areas.
This decade has been bad for almost every state...wait.... every state in the country. Unless your Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota etc where their base economy is farming or small service.
The U.S. went through two recession from 2000-2009. It wasn't pleasant. Unemployment rates say something I guess, and right now North Carolina is being hit really hard. Ohio's unemployment rate is nothing to write home about either, but Ohio's is 10.2% while NC is at 10.8%, and South Carolina is at 11.5%.
North Carolina, esp Charlotte was so soley based on the banking industry that it is literally slautering the city. The banks aren't doing good as we all know.
I am suprised sometimes though, South Carolina has always had a higher unemployment rate. Why is that? What is their economy based on that is hurting?
http://www.bls.gov/web/lauhsthl.htm
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