Please rank Ohio cities (Columbus, Cleveland: Home Depot, subdivisions, income)

[tallinvestor]

Lol. Y town is higher than akron and canton! Come on now!

[Mikieo415]

Originally Posted by tallinvestor

Lol. Y town is higher than akron and canton! Come on now!

Inquiring minds have to know, how have you come to that conclusion? Did you happen to travel to there? Welcome to the forum new member! I can't wait to talk with you!

[ILOVEOHIO]

So....is it Cleveland or Columbus?? I say neither...when you have a bigger city you get bigger ghettos...sorry!!

[1watertiger]

yo scottie- last i checked cleveland csa was 3 mil. its msa was 2+ mil. note columbus doesnt really have a csa. (mmmm because its a small metro ? ) and besides everyone in N.E.ohio knows cleve/akron is already merged with its north and south burbs into the 15th largest market in the country (mmmm maybe thats why we are a major league city ? ).. also scotie,, if u drive 15 miles out of cleveland W,S,or E. you would be in westlake,strongsville, broadview hts.,warrensville hts. mayfield hts.highland hts., willowick etc. not even to the outer-ring burbs yet.( not all cities are like columbus with corn around it after 15 miles scotie). and about using the great lake 1 month per year..,its more like 4 months of the beaches, boating, jet-sking, wind surf/sailing,swimming,fishing,etc...(but its 4 more months than you have in your land locked town),, and last i checked , some of clevelands 64 burbs were much wealthier than any burb in cbus....

[costello_musicman]

In regards to the Cleveland csa/msa being much larger than Columbus:
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Originally Posted by scottie

"tell me what columbus has that cleveland doesnt (besides osu)."

Alot nicer weather, nicer suburbs, better shopping venues, better jobs and economy

Cleveland has the richest suburbs bro. This thread is comparing the cities themselves nonetheless, but Cleveland is unfortunitely known for many of its suburbs:

Ohio locations by per capita income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

FYI: Cuyahoga, Lake, Geauga are in the Cleveland MSA. and Summit, Portage, and Stark are the CSA.

[costello_musicman]

Here's a side note that has always bothered me about Columbus:

City Areas 1950's:
Cleveland: 78 sq miles
Columbus: 72 sq miles
Cincinnati: 78 sq miles

City Areas 2008:
Cleveland: 78 sq miles
Columbus: 215 sq miles
Cincinnati: 78 sq miles

Columbus has really looked good on paper since the 1950's with new businesses/houses/more population, but it has done most of it by annexation of its suburbs until recent years. The endless statistics and positive media news has spurred people to stay and others to move into the area. Now I'm not saying this is the only reason, but I do truly believe it is a huge aspect. It will be interesting to see how Columbus does once it stops annexing...I believe the most recent was 2007?! But I hear there is still open land in the city limits?? If that is the case Columbus should be in good shape for a while.

To also put it in perpective, Cleveland would have 1 million+ if they added 4-5 miles east, south, and west.

My Rankings:
1) Cleveland (old city feel, 3 major sports, Orchestra/Theater District/Music Scene, Lakefront, skyline)
2) Cincinnati (cool downtown, 2 major sports/college sports, denser--easier to walk, skyline and skyline chili!)
3) Columbus (OSU!, shopping)
4) Toledo
5) Akron
6) Dayton
7) Canton

[scottie]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

yo scottie- last i checked cleveland csa was 3 mil. its msa was 2+ mil. note columbus doesnt really have a csa. (mmmm because its a small metro ? ) and besides everyone in N.E.ohio knows cleve/akron is already merged with its north and south burbs into the 15th largest market in the country

I have never said that Columbus is bigger than Cleveland in any respect - city, metro, or combined statistical. Columbus does have a CSA - it is 24th in the country.

Table of United States Combined Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Notice how Cleveland is one of only two CSA's in the 30 largest CSA's in America that is actually losing population since 2000. Even Detroit isnt one of those! Columbus's CSA has grown 6.45 percent in that time adding about 115,000 since 2000. Its pretty clear which city is headed in the better direction.

also scotie,, if u drive 15 miles out of cleveland W,S,or E. you would be in westlake,strongsville, broadview hts.,warrensville hts. mayfield hts.highland hts., willowick etc. not even to the outer-ring burbs yet

Actually if you go about a mile or two outside of Strongsville you are in the country and corn fields which is about 15 miles from Cleveland.

and last i checked , some of clevelands 64 burbs were much wealthier than any burb in cbus

Now this one I really want to hear. Name me 9 Cleveland suburbs with a household income about $70,000. Actually, that would be even with Columbus so name me at least 10 or 12. Here's Columbus -
Powell - Median household income - $130,600
New Albany - Median household income - $108,600
Dublin - Median household income - $96,900
Upper Arlington - Median household income - $76,600
Bexley - Median household income - 74,600
Westerville - Median household income - $73,500
Hilliard - Median household income - $73,300
Worthington - Median household income - $72,900
Gahanna - Median household income - $70,200

[costello_musicman]

^^See everything I posted above.

[scottie]

Originally Posted by costello_musicman

Columbus has really looked good on paper since the 1950's with new businesses/houses/more population, but it has done most of it by annexation of its suburbs until recent years. The endless statistics and positive media news has spurred people to stay and others to move into the area. Now I'm not saying this is the only reason, but I do truly believe it is a huge aspect. It will be interesting to see how Columbus does once it stops annexing

Columbus has not done all of its population growth by annexing suburbs. That has been part of it but alot of Columbus's suburbs are growing. Delaware (Delaware county is Ohio's fastest growing county),Powell (almost doubled in size since 2000), Dublin (+5,000 people since 2000), Pickerington (almost doubled in size since 2000) Grove City (+4,700 people since 2000) to name some.

[cwilloughby78]

It all depends in your criteria for rating these cities if you want to look for the safest based on the number of violent crimes committed then here is those cities by safest to most dangerousviolent crimes include murder, rape, aggrevated assault, armed robbery etc)
From 2005 Dept. of Justice Statistics (most current data)
1. Marion (84)
2. Lima (453)
3. Canton (668)
4. Youngstown (919)
5. Akron (1285)
6. Dayton (1538)
7. Cincinnati (3738)
8. Columbus (6203)
9. Cleveland (6430)

If you want to rank them my total number of property crimes from safest to most dangerous then here is that listproperty crimes include burglary, larceny theft, vehicle thefts)
From 2005 Dept. of Justice Statistics (most current data)
1. Marion (1539)
2. Lima (2678)
3. Youngstown (4703)
4. Canton (6051)
5. Dayton (11490)
6. Akron (12208)
7. Cincinnati (22492)
8. Cleveland (28717)
9. Columbus (54909)

Take from this list what you will, but the facts don't lie. If you think the best place to live is where it's safest then so be it.Looks like Marion for both