Please rank Ohio cities (Columbus, Cleveland: condos, townhomes, live)

[Cincy-Rise]

Well, "sweet city" is a subjective term, actually anyway you would describe a city with opinion is subjective. There is no right nor wrong way to describe it, unless you claim that your description is "absolute truth".

[harper08]

Dayton-Springfield : i live in huber heights (just north of dayton) it sucks.
Canton : sounds boring
Toledo : sounds pretty fun.
Cleveland : nice
Lima : boring
Columbus : i'd much rather live there
Youngstown : i wouldnt want to live there
Akron : sounds fun
Marion : sounds boring.
Cincinnati : again, i'd much rather live there.

[scottie]

Originally Posted by Cle440

Scottie Im not sure what you are talking about with all of your posts on here. The Cleveland/Akron area is much larger than the Columbus msa. The city population doesnt even matter right now since Columbus takes up 3 times the land area that Cleveland does. The Cleveland msa is 3 million, Columbus is 1.9 million (note that the Cleveland msa doesnt even include the Canton area, which is conneted to Akron, or Youngstown, if it did it would add 1.3 million).

We have 3 major sports team and Columbus has none. I dont hate Columbus, but I would pick Cleveland over it anyday.

First of all, you have the msa number way wrong. I think you are referring to Cleveland's CSA. The msa of Cleveland is 2,114,155. For Columbus, it is 1,725,570. Go ahead and see for yourself - Table of United States Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are referring to the CSA. Cleveland's CSA is 2,917,801 and Columbus's is 1,953,575. Table of United States Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you look at my posts, I have never said or argued that Columbus is bigger than Cleveland. What I have said is that Cleveland is one of the only metro areas in the country that is actually losing population, while Columbus is the fastest growing metro in Ohio.

Secondly, Columbus has an NHL pro sports team and is home to the Buckeyes, which is the most popular team in the state

[scottie]

Originally Posted by Cle440

Scottie also said the weather is a LOT worse in Cleveland than it is in Columbus...That is also not true. The average temperatures for my hometown (Elyria, 20 miles west of Cleveland) and Columbus are the same.

Are you kidding me??? This is absolutely ridiculous. Its common sense that a city 2 and a half hours south (Columbus) of another city ON THE LAKE (Elyria and Cleveland) is going to be much warmer. But since you said the temperatures for Elyria and Columbus are the same I decided to go on weather.com
Predicted highs for the next 5 days -
Day Elyria Columbus
Fri 43 48
Sat 39 48
Sun 36 41
Mon 42 48
Tue 46 54
5 degrees on Friday, 9 degrees on Saturday, 5 degrees on Sunday, 6 degrees on Monday, 8 degrees on Tuesday, all of them Columbus being warmer

We had out first 90+ degree in May and had our last one in October.

Wow, well I guess Cleveland people also really like to lie. A 90-degree day in October, huh? Just this past September, Cleveland tied a 107-year-old record with a temperature of 88. cleveland.com: Everything Cleveland Notice how it says, the average high that time of September is 69 degrees. So, no way did it hit 90 in October. Same with May, it never hits 90 degrees in May anywhere in Ohio, or for that matter for almost anywhere in the entire country except Arizona, Florida and maybe south Texas. Stop trying to fool everybody with made up stats or else Im not going to be part of this anymore

[WhiteDove428]

Originally Posted by sirjef8

Would like some input on Youngstown, Oh with regards to the safest places to live in that area and overall comments about life in Younstown. My daughter is taking a position there as Week End News Anchor with ABC. Would especially like comments from people who live in the area.

If U'd like, can send comments direct sirjef8@aol.com

I lived near Wick Park in Youngstown for 4 years. There were some bums and sketchy characters aimlessly wondering, but I never had any problems (nothing stolen, never been attacked).

I also enjoyed it.

[Ashley111]

I live in Lima....it is bad. Trust me I am going to get out as soon as I can! I have about a 1/2 a year of school left.

[HRGuy]

If you consider yourself "liberal" Columbus is clearly the only place to live in Ohio. Franklin County consistently votes for Dems and the city is the most gay-friendly in the state. The Mayor there has joined mayors of other big cities to start a "green initiative" and independent theater there is much more developed than any other city in Ohio.

Cincinnati is very conservative, having a major freeway named the Ronald Reagan Parkway. Obviously I am of the liberal leaning, and so loved living in Columbus. If you are more conservative, then Cincinnati or Dayton or Akron will probably be more to your liking. Cincinnati's hills are striking and beautiful, though.

Cleveland, the largest metro area, has its pluses. Yes, there is some beautiful architecture there, but a lot of the city suffers from urban blight. It is on a great lake, though, and has amazing musems.

Columbus is newer city, but has done a great job of preserving historic architecture. German Village is the largest National Historic Site in the country, and it's a beautiful neighborhood. Oh, and they are building more mass transit in Columbus. There is a plan for a streetcar system which I believe would be well used.

For the record I currently live in Seattle, and there are lots of things I liked about Columbus better. Big, flashy cosmopolitan cities can be exciting, but can also be expensive, emotionally draining and socially isolating. I had the time of my life when I lived in Columbus.

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by scottie

Are you kidding me??? This is absolutely ridiculous. Its common sense that a city 2 and a half hours south (Columbus) of another city ON THE LAKE (Elyria and Cleveland) is going to be much warmer. But since you said the temperatures for Elyria and Columbus are the same I decided to go on weather.com

Wow, well I guess Cleveland people also really like to lie. A 90-degree day in October, huh? Just this past September, Cleveland tied a 107-year-old record with a temperature of 88. cleveland.com: Everything Cleveland Notice how it says, the average high that time of September is 69 degrees. So, no way did it hit 90 in October. Same with May, it never hits 90 degrees in May anywhere in Ohio, or for that matter for almost anywhere in the entire country except Arizona, Florida and maybe south Texas. Stop trying to fool everybody with made up stats or else Im not going to be part of this anymore

Wow, Scottie...I didnt read this until now so its new to me. You have no proof of anything you said, and I have proof of what I was saying. I dont like to lie, and I didnt lie. Go to weather.com and compare the averages for Elyria and Columbus, go ahead heres the link: Climatology Comparison for Elyria, OH - weather.com It says, on average Columbus is TWO degrees warmer than Elyria. Also look at the average highs from May to August, there is a ONE degree difference. AND, This book I have (something with Dick Goddard) for weather in Ohio, it shows that Elyria is the SAME temperature-wise as Columbus. I have also been to Columbus when it was colder down there than it was in Elyria/N Ridgeville. Also the record temperature for September is 102 degrees...not 88, wow.

I swear to you that around Cleveland (at least in Elyria) we had a 90+ degree day (at least Im sure it was 87+ degrees) IN October, this was in the start of the month, I think it was around the 9th. Im not saying that it happens everyday, but Im pretty sure we had at least 2 or 3 85+ degree days in October. And we DID have a 90+ degree in May, if I can find a temperature record I will show you. A 90 degree day in May doesnt happen all the time, but its not rare. You are sadly mistaken, I dont make up any stats and I didnt lie about anything.

[Cincy-Rise]

All 3 C's are amazing cities and we are lucky to have them in OH and in close proximity to each other. Many states would love to have what we have and all 3 offer something different that the other 2 don't.


I see no reason to have a pissing match over which one is "better" as they are all very different.

[Clevelander17]

Originally Posted by Cincy-Rise

All 3 C's are amazing cities and we are lucky to have them in OH and in close proximity to each other. Many states would love to have what we have and all 3 offer something different that the other 2 don't.


I see no reason to have a pissing match over which one is "better" as they are all very different.

Agreed. Even though I routinely get into it with my Cincy buddies over sports, I still like the city a lot. And I love Columbus too, for as much time as I spend at Ohio State.

Some may jump on me for saying this, but this is what I've experienced and I've heard others say as well: Cincinnati has a Southern feel to it; Columbus is more Midwestern in character; and Cleveland seems like a Northeastern city. All three bring something interesting to the table, which is why, in a lot of ways, Ohio is "bellweather" state on used for making predictions about the rest of the country as a whole.