how does ohio feel about trump giving the transgender bathroom issue back to the states ? (Republic: 2015, crime)

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

The sky is falling. More opinions from a liberal that doesnt live here. How do you know this will get worse? Such nonsense.
Im glad the feds gave it to the states.
Imo its simple. If you have a vagina use womens and if you have penis use mens. Only after the surgery and you "legally" change your anatomy and identity should that person be allowed to use the other genders bathroom.

We were already told by Trump supporters that LGBT protections were going to be safe under his administration. Oops! It's already gotten worse. Being any kind of minority right now in the US is under threat, either through the legal system or just basic safety due to a growing culture of fed-backed discriminatory rhetoric. I'm not the only one who thinks that. Global tourism to the US is collapsing. Even while it's clear you don't care much about minorities, you might care about the millions of US jobs that depend on that industry.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

I support states rights over federal government on 100% of issues. I support the individual over the states.

How exactly does that work? If there are no federal standards governing individual rights, what protects the individual when states enact discriminatory policy? What's stopping them? The individual doesn't grant rights/protections to themselves.

[jorewa]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Guess you don't know what an individual is.

Thanks for trying.

Amazingly enough, I am actually familiar with an individual, thanks bud.

What protects individuals when states abuse them if the federal government cannot touch "states rights."

[1watertiger]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

We were already told by Trump supporters that LGBT protections were going to be safe under his administration. Oops! It's already gotten worse. Being any kind of minority right now in the US is under threat, either through the legal system or just basic safety due to a growing culture of fed-backed discriminatory rhetoric. I'm not the only one who thinks that. Global tourism to the US is collapsing. Even while it's clear you don't care much about minorities, you might care about the millions of US jobs that depend on that industry.

Utter non sense. Explain to me how anyone has lost rights ? Under threat ? Are you fricking kidding me? Lol
Only illeagal criminal aliens are being targeted, currently.
Trump is enforcing current immigration laws. He hasnt changed law hes following it.
He got us out of TTP
He is focused on lowering taxes for everyone including businesses with the hope of companies bringing back trillions from offshore Banks.
His job plan re- building the country's infrastructure is a good one.
Can't you see that Trump is doing exactly what he promised during the elections? I think it's refreshing because he is not a politician and he's actually doing what he says. Remember the people of Ohio voted for him.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by jorewa

Amazingly enough, I am actually familiar with an individual, thanks bud.

What protects individuals when states abuse them if the federal government cannot touch "states rights."

What protects individuals when the feds abuse them if the states can't touch the feds?

You're not nearly as clever as you think. In fact, I had better debates as a high school senior.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

How exactly does that work? If there are no federal standards governing individual rights, what protects the individual when states enact discriminatory policy? What's stopping them? The individual doesn't grant rights/protections to themselves.

Why is it assumed the federal government is the good guy? I don't see a good reason for this.

[1watertiger]

And its amazing to me the overwhelming majority of black voters in Cuyahoga county voted for more of the same crap. Democrats have done nothing for blacks the past 8+ yrs .

[jorewa]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

What protects individuals when the feds abuse them if the states can't touch the feds?

You're not nearly as clever as you think. In fact, I had better debates as a high school senior.

I'm surprised your debate team let you answer every question with a question. You have any actual points you want to make? Or are you having too much fun pretending I'm an idiot?

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

Utter non sense. Explain to me how anyone has lost rights ? Under threat ? Are you fricking kidding me? Lol
Only illeagal criminal aliens are being targeted, currently.
Trump is enforcing current immigration laws. He hasnt changed law hes following it.
He got us out of TTP
He is focused on lowering taxes for everyone including businesses with the hope of companies bringing back trillions from offshore Banks.
His job plan re- building the country's infrastructure is a good one.
Can't you see that Trump is doing exactly what he promised during the elections? I think it's refreshing because he is not a politician and he's actually doing what he says. Remember the people of Ohio voted for him.

Well, you certainly are well-versed in the talking points, I'll give you that.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Why is it assumed the federal government is the good guy? I don't see a good reason for this.

Why is it assumed that the states are? And you didn't answer the question. Who protects the individual from the state if not the federal government? When the state enacts discriminatory legislation, who steps in if you disagree that the federal government should have any say in it? Are those people just screwed?