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View Poll Results: Should Ohio Congresspersons support Trump proposals to slash job training funds?
Yes, federal job training programs should be cut back 4 57.14%
No, effective federal job training programs should be maintained or expanded 3 42.86%
Don't care 0 0%
Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-09-2017, 07:08 AM
 
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The Trump administration apparently proposes to slash funding for job training programs that have been effective in Ohio.

<<Long questions why Trump would seek to cut funding to programs that have proven effective. NewBridge has placed 93 percent of its graduates in jobs in the past two years. The local OMJ performs better than the statewide average. The AARP employment program places 95 percent of its participants in jobs that aren't subsidized with public funds.>>

Donald Trump's job training cuts could block path to middle class for many in Cleveland area | cleveland.com

These budget cuts would seem to contradict Trump's campaign promises to boost employment.

The article says that the Trump administration may replace these programs with tax credits for employers.

Of course, non-profit employers, such as hospitals and governments, would get no benefit from tax credits. And the article says that employers use job training tax credits mostly to train employees who already possess basic skills.
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Old 04-09-2017, 09:05 AM
 
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$20 Trillion in debt and growing. You can either watch what you spend, or you can keep printing money until you have a $25 Wendy's hamburger and a $45 minimum wage. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
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Old 04-09-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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$20 Trillion in debt and growing. You can either watch what you spend, or you can keep printing money until you have a $25 Wendy's hamburger and a $45 minimum wage. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Training programs that provide marketable skills and enable persons to leave welfare, Medicaid, etc., would seem likely to reduce the deficit, especially compared to providing tax cuts to the wealthy who have a propensity to invest overseas and travel to foreign nations for vacations.
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Old 04-09-2017, 01:25 PM
 
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Training programs that provide marketable skills and enable persons to leave welfare, Medicaid, etc., would seem likely to reduce the deficit, especially compared to providing tax cuts to the wealthy who have a propensity to invest overseas and travel to foreign nations for vacations.
Do you get to print money just because you want a new flat screen TV even if you don't have the money for it? Math is simple. You either have money for something or you don't. All it takes is enough discipline and focus to prioritize spending.
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Old 04-09-2017, 06:35 PM
 
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Do you get to print money just because you want a new flat screen TV even if you don't have the money for it? Math is simple. You either have money for something or you don't. All it takes is enough discipline and focus to prioritize spending.
Duh.
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Old 04-09-2017, 10:27 PM
 
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Duh.
You're the one crying because Trump actually has the cojones to cut something, not me. I'm all for it.
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Old 04-10-2017, 03:57 AM
 
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You're the one crying because Trump actually has the cojones to cut something, not me. I'm all for it.
Like Ohio Republicans under Kasich, Trump proposes to slash programs benefiting the many to help pay for massive tax cuts for the wealthy. Given Ohio's relative weakness in job creation under Kasich, how many jobs actually were created by the secretive JobsOhio program and at what cost per job? While local government funds were slashed by the Ohio Republicans, resulting in higher local sales and income taxes and even an increase in the sales tax, income tax rates on many pass-through entities were lowered to zero and hundreds of millions annually of state revenues were diverted to JobsOhio.

The track records of the job training programs that Trump would eliminate are by comparison available for public scrutiny.

Similarly, contrary to his campaign promises, Trump would gut medical insurance coverage for most Americans.

Essential benefits key focus of Trump health care reform

Eliminating effective training programs that allow individuals to become productive members of society is not an act of courage in my book, but one of stupidity.

Privatizing federal services, especially in the national intelligence services, has resulted in massive breaches of security that have more than offset any savings. Of course, the corporations providing these services make hefty campaign contributions.

Did you like the George W. Bush trickle-down economics? Ironically, Ohioans ravaged by the Great Recession voted for another politician promising one thing, but apparently delivering another.

Didn't Trump promise effective job training programs???

https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcom...ww.google.com/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b00705db4cbe7f

What I'm seeing isn't courage, but deceit.
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Old 04-10-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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Do you get to print money just because you want a new flat screen TV even if you don't have the money for it? Math is simple. You either have money for something or you don't. All it takes is enough discipline and focus to prioritize spending.
Then raise taxes on the wealthy...that will bring in far more cash to allow spending.

BTW, the Federal Debt is good. Gov't spending boosts the economy.
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Old 04-10-2017, 03:42 PM
 
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Then raise taxes on the wealthy...that will bring in far more cash to allow spending.

BTW, the Federal Debt is good. Gov't spending boosts the economy.
I don't agree that federal debt is good. It, and unfunded liabilities, are a mounting catastrophe.

Especially borrowing to fund military adventures a sure-fire prescription for economic disaster.
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Old 04-11-2017, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Then raise taxes on the wealthy...that will bring in far more cash to allow spending.

BTW, the Federal Debt is good. Gov't spending boosts the economy.
Idiocy. Plain and simple.
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