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Old 04-04-2007, 07:56 AM
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people of America are under the idea that its the govt's job to decide what is good for us , we are turning into the nanny state, I've read many here who say everyone knows that second hand smoke is bad, the everyone knows is a way of making stupid people believe that it is true, there are conflicting reports on second hand smoke some say its bad some say it is OK, but its the people who think we live in a democracy they have screwed this whole system up. we do not live in a democracy we live in a republic , democracy is a mob rule form of govt, is that what you all want? democracy likens to two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for dinner?
i don't smoke ,. i think people who do smoke are stupid , but fortunately there is no law about being dumb, now that the P.C. group have gotten the govt to ban smoking whats next??????
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:11 PM
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There should be no drinking of alcohol in public places in the entire state of Ohio.
That would completely ruin the charm of attending a Browns game ...
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Old 04-06-2007, 09:28 AM
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The banning of smoking is not a banning of a personal decision, it's the banning of smoke that easily contacts others. That smoke comes from smokers, therefore, the no smoking sign. It's not a "nanny" thing, it's just blatently obvious that smoke travels.
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Old 04-06-2007, 01:33 PM
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That would completely ruin the charm of attending a Browns game ...
Ha! That was a good one. I remember that fiasco. Didn't a referee get clocked in the head with a hand held radio?
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Old 04-06-2007, 02:59 PM
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i remember nickle beer night.......i thought that it would be fun to combine it with bat night
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Old 04-06-2007, 03:30 PM
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The banning of smoking is not a banning of a personal decision, it's the banning of smoke that easily contacts others. That smoke comes from smokers, therefore, the no smoking sign. It's not a "nanny" thing, it's just blatently obvious that smoke travels.
On a more macro level, isn't it rightfully the choice of individual business owners whether or not to allow that smoke in their environment? If patrons prefer a non-smoking place, can't they freely choose to dine and/or drink someplace where the owner's decision reflects their preference? That's freedom.

But, noooo! Now according to the Nanny-staters, we (patrons and establishment owners alike) aren't capable of making our own decisions like these. We are helpless and clueless. We MUST have government bureaucrats decide for us!

Is this not totally revolting to you, as an American?

Besides, what happens when the self appointed do-gooders decide to use the force of government to ban something you do like?

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Old 04-06-2007, 05:18 PM
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Freedom isn't absolute. You don't have blank check to pollute others' lungs. I know you think that is American, but not so much.

Don't you find poision to be revolting?
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Old 04-06-2007, 06:21 PM
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Actually, smoking in public places wasn't really that big a deal for this Buckeye. Haven't been bothered by smoke in restaurants and my wife and I haven't been bar-hopping in YEARS. But I voted for the law because of the minority of a**bags I've encountered over the years that insist they have the right to foul MY air...
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:32 PM
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THey keep taking more and more of our freedoms away, yes i agree with a ban in restarunts, but come on, most people in bars smoke, even if they don't they do when they drink, it was a bit drastic and what else will they take away? They could have limited it to only ban's in restarunts
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:55 AM
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where does all this thought process about letting the govt make our decisions for us that we should do whats for the best of our fellow men start? it begins in the govt run schools! at a young age we are taught.... do you have enough gum for the entire class? then put it away, bingo you are off to a govt controlled politically correct civilization, we are not allowed to offend anyone? and it has been proven on this city data site that we cannot voice our opinions if it might offend someones feelings, read this quick for the yac master will probably delete my post for insensitivity.....smoke um if ya got um!
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