Ohio: Economically depressed? (Florida: homes, school, salary)

[JefferyT]

Funny this should come up. The state board of education has a measure called "economically disadvantaged", which is a higher number than poverty. It measures how many students are economically disadvantaged by district.

I used this number to compare the center city districts for the top 8 Ohio metros, then I focus in on the most disadvantaged districts.

Performance and Disadvantage

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by JefferyT

Funny this should come up. The state board of education has a measure called "economically disadvantaged", which is a higher number than poverty. It measures how many students are economically disadvantaged by district.

I used this number to compare the center city districts for the top 8 Ohio metros, then I focus in on the most disadvantaged districts.

Performance and Disadvantage

Those charts dont seem to make sense at all. There is no way that Columbus has the highest percentage of "economically disadvantaged" students of any place in Ohio. Its probably closer to the lowest of the larger cities. 98%, are you serious??? It must not be the same standards as the other cities, all of them must measure it differently. I must not be understanding this right.

[JefferyT]

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These are not for all Ohio districts, just the urban districts, and school districts are not equivilant to city limits.

But, yeah, I aknowlege there might be some error with Columbus. 98% seems high.

I do think Youngstown, Dayton, and Cleveland are probably comparable.

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by JefferyT

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These are not for all Ohio districts, just the urban districts, and school districts are not equivilant to city limits.

But, yeah, I aknowlege there might be some error with Columbus. 98% seems high.

I do think Youngstown, Dayton, and Cleveland are probably comparable.

No, I dont think so either. All of them must have different standards for "economically disadvantaged". Cleveland has the most poverty of all the systems and probably the highest percentage of the higher income people sending their kids to private schools. After that should be Youngstown and than Dayton. Cincinnati also seems low. Based on those graphs, Cincinnati looks like its doing great which I somewhat doubt.

But, based on the other numbers (accurate or not) I would say Columbus would be around 50%. Im still kind of confused on this and how you got these numbers, and how they came up with them. Based on those graphs, "Economically Disadvantaged' doesnt seem like a good indicator of anything.

[Buckeye 89]

lol

Columbus public would easily be higher than 50%. I have a feeling that if Cleveland was the highest on the graph, Cle would have no issues with that at all. Funny

[Agenias]

"And what about teacher's salaries? Let's not even go there. That is a whole seperate issue in itself. Teachers in many of these urban schools have to go out and purchase their own classroom supplies, on an already disgraceful salary. That is another reason urban schools are not as successful. Teachers cannot AFFORD to teach in a setting where they are having to purchase classroom materials, it is not that they do not WANT to teach there but they have car payments, house payments/rent, groceries just like any other person and having to buy classroom supplies EVERY YEAR really adds up.

Whoa...sorry to get on that tanget![/quote]


Are you a teacher? My parents both were , my sister in law is and my sister and her husband all in OH. My sister has been teaching for 3 or 4 years and this year she just hit $30K/year and in OH, you HAVE to get your master's class within a certain amount of time, so they are each paying about $10K to get their master's degrees. They've already got a 4 year degree for crying out loud! My husband on the other hand, has been working for 3 years after graduating college with a 5 year engineering degree and makes more than both of them combined, it's not fair at all. He says his job is soooo much easier than having to deal with all the things teachers have to deal with. Yeah, they get summers off and Christmas' (unlike RN's like me =( but during the year, your work comes home with you, I know I helped grade my parents tests and homework sometimes to help out. Anyhow, thanks for posting, you are right, the salary IS disgraceful!

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by Buckeye 89

lol

Columbus public would easily be higher than 50%. I have a feeling that if Cleveland was the highest on the graph, Cle would have no issues with that at all. Funny

What?Did you see the graphs?

Trust me, I know a lot about this. Youngstown has a poverty rate of near 30% and Cleveland is right below that. Dayton is slightly below that. All I was saying is that the graph is wrong, seeing that Columbus has the lowest poverty rate of all the large cities in Ohio, yet its the highest on the graph. Its obviously inaccurate. If you dont know that obviously you dont know anything about this stuff. If Cincinnati is around 57% or whatever, Columbus is definitely a good amount below that so realistically Columbus should be around 40%-50% maximum.

[JR_C]

Cle440,

As I understand it, there is a big difference between the Columbus city limits and the Columbus city school district.

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by JR_C

Cle440,

As I understand it, there is a big difference between the Columbus city limits and the Columbus city school district.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Still I think we can all agree that 98% is higher than most would think. I dont think any school district in Ohio is nearly that high.

[JefferyT]

The "economically disadvantaged" % is based largely on if students recieve free lunches or are eligible to recieve them, so its not based strictly on poverty.