Ohio: Economically depressed? (Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati: transfer, good schools, live)

[Alaskapat528]

Originally Posted by Buckeye in SC

I give you props for discussing most every region of the state and your positive attitude towards Ohio - seeing the glass half-full. Your experiences living in Ohio obviously have led you to love the state, and that's great, b/c Ohio needs ambassadors like you to help turn it around. I would love nothing more for the state to rebound and be a hot destination again. I'm not going to pump any more negativity towards the state on this thread, but just understand, while all those things you mentioned are great assets for the state, there has been trememdous job losses across the state, w/literally millions effected by them. The other thing the state has no control on is it's gloomy weather (w/the exception of the southwest portion i.e. Cincinnati of the state). I never realized how gloomy and cloudy Ohio was until we moved to South Carolina - it really does make a positive impact on your outlook when it is very sunny and mostly mild the entire year. Other than that, Ohio has the resources to rebound strongly in the coming years if it plays to it's strengths i.e. plenty of Fortune 500 companies, strong healthcare like the Cleveland Clinic, etc. - and needs to utilize people like you pumping it up in advertisements!

Having been born and raised in Cleveland I did not notice gloomy, cloudy days. Oh sure, in the winter there is, but that's up here in Alaska also. Matter of fact when I was in Ohio this past June and July, it was very sunny and hot. Other then being hot, the days were beautiful. It was nice to watch a good thunderstorm again.

[Traveler87]

Originally Posted by Alaskapat528

Having been born and raised in Cleveland I did not notice gloomy, cloudy days. Oh sure, in the winter there is, but that's up here in Alaska also. Matter of fact when I was in Ohio this past June and July, it was very sunny and hot. Other then being hot, the days were beautiful. It was nice to watch a good thunderstorm again.

Sometimes you can always look forward to a good thunderstorm. None of those in Alaska?

[Buckeye in SC]

Originally Posted by Alaskapat528

Having been born and raised in Cleveland I did not notice gloomy, cloudy days. Oh sure, in the winter there is, but that's up here in Alaska also. Matter of fact when I was in Ohio this past June and July, it was very sunny and hot. Other then being hot, the days were beautiful. It was nice to watch a good thunderstorm again.

I will give you that I would probably take an Ohio July & August over what we get here b/c it tends to be very hot (low to mid-90s almost everyday), but the other 10 months of the year are far better here w/the exception of maybe September & early October in Ohio - which is comparable to November & December weather here - are typically very mild and enjoyable weather. But, I remember half of the Halloween's it seemed there would be snow on the ground in Ohio, and that led the long trek into a gloomy winter that lasted into April. We get plenty of thunderstorms here during the hot summer months if you enjoy them!

[Alaskapat528]

Originally Posted by Traveler87

Sometimes you can always look forward to a good thunderstorm. None of those in Alaska?

A good thunderstorm in the part of Alaska we live in use to be very uncommon. However, lately we've had some, but nothing like the lower 48. We'll get rain, and a little thunder, but very mild ones in this part.

[mrspink]

Well...I am one of those people who is looking to move away from Ohio. HOWEVER...that is due to my husband and my being 1. young and wanting to experience life in new places and 2. our careers.

While Ohio is in a "slump" right now, Traveler is right. Cbus is a fast growing city with a lot of nice suburbs. On my last visit there I saw a lot of developments and whether you like the Buckeyes or not...that brings in a lot of young people from out of state who come to grow and love the city/state for what it is. And when you consider the average amount of time to complete a degree is 4-5 years...the incoming freshmen have a lot to look forward to if they plan on working in-state.

I won't go on about the other cities...but I can see why many people are choosing to stay in Ohio. However, if your profession is education...you are out of luck. When I was in high school we were told that by the time we graduated college the "baby-boomer" teachers would be retiring. Yea...that has not happened yet. Much of it is due to the retire-rehire plan, and teachers are taking advantage of that. Even with that, in my area last year our local school had 2 early ed openings and over 200 applications. Talk about a competitive job market! While education jobs may come back, which I am sure they will...I cannot wait 10 years to get a job. Not if we want to start a family. Financially it isn't possible.

So, I am glad for the growth Ohio will experience in the future. At least we know our state has nowhere to go but up! If your career choice has led you to a good job in Ohio, that is wonderful. Ohio needs people to stay here and believe in its success. Unfortunately there are those of us who will have to be rooting from a few thousand miles away.

I am an Ohioan, always will be. But I am going to have to go where the jobs are. Maybe my husband and I will want to raise our family here because we have so MUCH family here. But as long as it's the two of us...we might have to leave our lovely state.

[InLondon]

This is not a stereotype, just the truth. For many years lots of people in Ohio thought they were "above" people that lived South of the Ohio River. Times have changed and now Ohio is getting looked down upon. Oh well, guess it's just some karma perhaps.

[Alaskapat528]

Originally Posted by InLondon

This is not a stereotype, just the truth. For many years lots of people in Ohio thought they were "above" people that lived South of the Ohio River. Times have changed and now Ohio is getting looked down upon. Oh well, guess it's just some karma perhaps.

Strange, I was never aware of any such sterotype.

[Art1979]

Originally Posted by InLondon

This is not a stereotype, just the truth.

This line of thinking has always been an intellectual buzzkill, as it engenders the death of reason.

[Alaskapat528]

This is not a stereotype, just the truth

This like anything else is in the eye and the mind of the beholder. What is truth to one is not always truth to another.

[Traveler87]

Originally Posted by InLondon

This is not a stereotype, just the truth. For many years lots of people in Ohio thought they were "above" people that lived South of the Ohio River. Times have changed and now Ohio is getting looked down upon. Oh well, guess it's just some karma perhaps.

I have never heard anyone think they were above anyone from Kentucky here in Ohio. If anything, Kentucky is the one bashing Ohio for no reason at all. Because when I get to Columbus, I see more Kentucky plates than Michigan plates and that is saying something.

Cincinnati built the first IKea in a couple hundred mile radius. Yes, you see cars from Indiana, but my friends said you would think you were in Kentucky by the number of plates there are. Also, remember, Covington and Newport would be nothing but a bunch of sleep river towns if it wasn't for Cincinnati.

I know Ohioans throw the cousin jokes at West Virginia and Kentucky, but its all in good fun. You in Kentucky though, bash Ohio just to make yourself look better, it is getting really old.

Louisville is building a ugly "thing" for its new tallest, but Cincinnati is actually doing something with their skyline.

I am sorry, but in some parts of Kentucky, esp in the eastern end of the state, I had never seen poverty like that before. Literally, trailers with trash all over the yard, no electric, and the kids had little education, if any at all.

I am sorry, but I am tired of the Ohio bashing from people in Kentucky. Ohio is more than twice the size in population, we have 30 times the amount of fortune 500 companies than Kentucky, more in Cincinnati/Dayton than all of Kentucky. And our economic output is huge.

Kentucky has a lot, but you do not see me bashing Kentucky just because you people talk bad about us, then I go and post something about it.