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08-28-2008, 04:45 PM
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This post just proves my point. Well I am sorry but the same thing exists in Ohio. Cleveland, Toledo, Youngstown, Cincinnati, Dayton all have big poverty issues.
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Its called big cities, you find that all over the country.
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08-28-2008, 04:49 PM
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Our cities are not dying. Look at the amount of investment dollars that are going in. You can only spend so much.
People need to do their research, and I can not harp on this enough. I have traveled to so many cities, hence the name I picked when I first joined lol, but so many cities are struggling.
And so called "perfect" Florida and other "perfect" states, have worse school systems than Ohio. You can find bad public school systems in most major cities. Look at our nation's capital and Miami.
I realize some of you just can't stand the fact of living here, the shame is you can find that in any other state, but you must realize that no state is perfect, and you can find things that just make you want to get up and leave anywhere. I am sorry, but thats the truth.
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08-28-2008, 05:46 PM
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ohio possibly has the very worst schools in the country. the investment dollars are targeted at a small minority of people in the cities. sure, you could work on making downtown an attraction for those with "downtown money", but is it going to help the 30% of poor in about 8 of ohio's cities? is it going to bring anything to the lives of the working class besides low-paying labor?
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08-28-2008, 05:56 PM
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ohio possibly has the very worst schools in the country. the investment dollars are targeted at a small minority of people in the cities. sure, you could work on making downtown an attraction for those with "downtown money", but is it going to help the 30% of poor in about 8 of ohio's cities? is it going to bring anything to the lives of the working class besides low-paying labor?
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Don't just complain to the lawmakers of Ohio on this issue, its found all across the U.S. like I stated before. I hear people complain all the time in Miami about their schools, but yet their skyline could be the Dubai of the U.S. Its not fair what happens, that is why you are seeing this country fail in so many aspects.
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08-28-2008, 06:07 PM
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Also, worst schools? Have you been to other states too and seen the status of their schools? Just curious, because what I have seen elsewhere was interesting. Ohio's urban schools are not doing the best, but other areas of the state have been rated excellent.
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08-28-2008, 07:28 PM
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Also, worst schools? Have you been to other states too and seen the status of their schools? Just curious, because what I have seen elsewhere was interesting. Ohio's urban schools are not doing the best, but other areas of the state have been rated excellent.
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that's whats so bad about ohio's schools. the burbs do exceptionally well, and the urban/appalachian areas perform miserably in a state with an abundance of urban/appalachian areas. kentucky, north carolina, mississippi etc all have bad schools, but ohio is clearly not doing well at all for a wealthier state.
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08-28-2008, 07:31 PM
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that's whats so bad about ohio's schools. the burbs do exceptionally well, and the urban/appalachian areas perform miserably in a state with an abundance of urban/appalachian areas. kentucky, north carolina, mississippi etc all have bad schools, but ohio is clearly not doing well at all for a wealthier state.
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Agreed.
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08-29-2008, 07:31 PM
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ohio possibly has the very worst schools in the country.
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Wrong. I have LIVED, and my kids attended schools in two Southern states, GA & NC. Not in rural areas, but in large metro areas with a large tax base. Believe me, I take no pride in admitting that the schools my children once attended are inferior. 
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08-29-2008, 11:05 PM
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Doesnt Cleveland have one of the worst school systems in the country? I dont know all about other areas of the state but up here Cleveland, East Cleveland, Lorain, Youngstown, Akron, and Canton, and others to an extent including Elyria and Mansfield have pretty bad schools.
Everytime I see Cleveland on the drop-outs or graduation rates, its always in the top 5 worst in the country, a couple times it was #1 or #2. Im not trying to bash our own state but to say that we have great schools in our urban areas would be a flat out lie.
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08-31-2008, 12:14 PM
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Is Ohio economically depressed? I guess it depends on where you sit... I sit in a truck seat every day and I'm making more money and working more hours than I ever have before. My wife's a teacher, so her job is reasonably recession-proof. Yes, I read in the local paper (Dayton Daily News) about the coming loss of jobs at DHL and GM's Moraine plant. And, yes, it will be a major upset for some families. Some wil find jobs that pay less than their previous jobs. Some will go back to school and improve their skills and actually do better. Some may decide to leave the area for better employments prospects elsewhere. But I still think one needs to look at their own situation instead of taking the media hacks and what others say about the economy as gospel. Decide for your self. On the plus side, I see the local Dayton area expanding in other areas; Wright-Patt is definitley an ever-growing base (with civilian contractors coming here, as well) So maybe this isn't such a bad place to live after all. I also believe the cost of living here is certainly favorable to most areas of the country.
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