Dayton+Cincinnati=Good? (Cleveland, Akron, Youngstown: apartments, townhouses, neighborhood)

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by WeSoHood

No. But with dayton you should.

Yeah. Hold on a second ... aren't you the guy that posted the skyline of ATL and said it was Cleveland's? lol ... read link below ...

Estimates of Population Change for Metropolitan Statistical Areas and Rankings: July 1, 2007 to July 1, 2007

With Dayton, we'll sit around 3.1 mil.

[hillside]

Table of United States Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[BelieveInCleve]

Officially Cincinnatis metro has more population than Cleveland now. Thats true, but you have to understand several factors. In the past few years, for some reason they have stopped counting an entire county on the Eastside that has previously been part of the Cleveland metro (I believe it was Ashtabula County, but I dont remember which one). Whichever county it was, it took at least 100,000 away from the Cleveland metro, we would still be ahead of Cincinnati. Also there are other estimates that still put Cleveland ahead of Cincinnati. You also have to understand that Cincinnatis metro covers much more land and has many more counties.

Realistically, Cleveland and Akron at the very least should be in the same metro. There bordering counties...Also Northeast Ohio mostly revolves around Cleveland, and depending on how many counties you consider Northeast Ohio, it has anywhere from 4.6 million-over 5.2 million people, its the densest and most urban area in Ohio. The other areas have a long way to ago before they can come anywhere near becoming the most populated or even approaching that. I felt that had to be said, because the numbers can be deceiving for people who dont know about the topic. Understand that Cleveland and Northeast Ohio is the most populated by far in Ohio, not trying to be bias or stick up for Cleveland but just being realistic.

[hillside]

northeast ohio is the most populated region of ohio, but all of that is not part of the cleveland metro, nor should be. ne ohio is shrinking. that should be a concern more than the numbers of who's included and who isn't. it's not 5.2 million though, lmao. it isn't the most urban either, lol.

the cincinnati MSA is officially bigger, and the CSA will be in a year.

[Crew Chief]

Originally Posted by hillside

not to mention cincinnati will be the largest MSA and CSA in ohio. i think perceptions will start to change about cinci nationally soon enough.

The Bengals winning some games would help, too...

[Ohiogirl81]

^^Dream on, dude.

Not that the Browns are much better, alas.

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by hillside

ne ohio is shrinking. that should be a concern more than the numbers of who's included and who isn't.

Quote of the day.

[BelieveInCleve]

Originally Posted by hillside

northeast ohio is the most populated region of ohio, but all of that is not part of the cleveland metro, nor should be. ne ohio is shrinking. that should be a concern more than the numbers of who's included and who isn't. it's not 5.2 million though, lmao. it isn't the most urban either, lol.

the cincinnati MSA is officially bigger, and the CSA will be in a year.

Northeast Ohio is not shrinking. The only areas that are actually losing population are the immediate Cleveland and Youngstown metros (mostly due to the main county of each area). All the areas further out and the Akron metro area are actually gaining population. If you divided Ohio up into 5 areas, NE, NW, SE, SW, and Central, Northeast Ohio would actually have near 5.2 million people. http://www.ohiolodgingrentals.com/im...io_regions.jpg add those counties up, by the most recent reliable numbers its over 5.2 million.

NE Ohio is also the densest and most urban overall, thats a fact. Just because some areas in Cincinnati "look" denser because of the housing styles doesnt mean they are. Cleveland is about 5,600/sq mile and Cincinnati is 4,200/sq mile. Thats a fact. You can use excuses like the hills, etc. but the bottomline is that Cleveland is denser and NE Ohio is the densest and most urban area in Ohio.

[Cincy-Rise]

Saying which city is most "urban" is like me saying Indy is more urban than Cbus ... I can you a hundred reasons why Cincy is more urban and I'm sure you can do the same.

Who cares about a quadrant of a state .... look at its metro for a sign of health (economy, population patterns, etc.).

[Daytonnatian]

Northeast Ohio is not shrinking. The only areas that are actually losing population are the immediate Cleveland and Youngstown metros (mostly due to the main county of each area). All the areas further out and the Akron metro area are actually gaining population. If you divided Ohio up into 5 areas, NE, NW, SE, SW, and Central, Northeast Ohio would actually have near 5.2 million people. http://www.ohiolodgingrentals.com/im...io_regions.jpg add those counties up, by the most recent reliable numbers its over 5.2 million.

NE Ohio is also the densest and most urban overall, thats a fact. Just because some areas in Cincinnati "look" denser because of the housing styles doesnt mean they are. Cleveland is about 5,600/sq mile and Cincinnati is 4,200/sq mile. Thats a fact. You can use excuses like the hills, etc. but the bottomline is that Cleveland is denser and NE Ohio is the densest and most urban area in Ohio.

Saying which city is most "urban" is like me saying Indy is more urban than Cbus ... I can you a hundred reasons why Cincy is more urban and I'm sure you can do the same.

Who cares about a quadrant of a state .... look at its metro for a sign of health (economy, population patterns, etc.).

I dunno...

Cleveland/Akron/Youngstown/Canton/Lorain/Elyria got the head start, but Cincinnati/Hamilton/Middletown/Dayton/Springfield is catching up!